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19 hours ago, merlyn said:

They owe no true allegiance to our king.  Let us be rid of them.")

The worst part is: they were right ^^

19 hours ago, merlyn said:

My own take on Agravain and his confederates is that they're tired of constantly getting unhorsed by Lancelot in tournaments and of Lancelot winning all the glory

It's not contradictory... Imagine this french holier-than-thou, winning all the tournaments, and the smiles of the ladies. Then, you realize he is cuckolding the king, your respected uncle. And that is the man who is always talking about honor... What a hypocrite!

19 hours ago, merlyn said:

but the evidence in both Malory and the Vulgate indicates that Agravain was the leader of the conspiracy

In my canon, Aggravain spoke, but it was with Mordred's words.

I always thought that Aggravain was genuinely concerned about the shame for his king and uncle, whereas Mordred was scheming for the fall of the kingdom. He was manipulated by his little brother. Poor guy ^^

Otherwise, I think if you move the Roman war toward the end (as an act of hubris), you have to:

• cancel/minor Lancelot (and all of his kin). It's a massive change for the GPC.
• Ask yourself the question: What of the Grail Quest?
• decide if Guenever is scheming with Mordred, or is a victim. The sources are unclear. 
• replace the war with Rome in 526/527 with the war in Norway (for Lot's rights according to the sources).
• shorten the reign of Arthur. The war with Rome could occur in 540, 550 maybe.

On 1/30/2021 at 11:42 PM, Voord 99 said:

Since Morien mentioned it, and, as it happens, I’ve been thinking of throwing it out for discussion: what if one put the Conquest era at the end of the campaign, or at least put the Roman War there?

In Historia Regum Britanniae, the war with Rome is the greatest success of Arthur, and his biggest failure as well. Mordred (and Guinever) betrayed him, and usurped the throne. There is no Lancelot in this tale, and Mordred is just the nephew (no hint of incest here).

It's a good twist for sure ^^. I am not sure however it's the best story to tell. There is something really powerful about the incest, the adultery, the best knight in the world loving his queen, betraying his vows...

On 1/30/2021 at 11:42 PM, Voord 99 said:

n Arthur who falls because of imperial arrogance might possess certain modern resonances that might speak to people in ways in which an Arthur who falls because of his wife’s extramarital affair does not.

In HRB, Arthur was victorious against the Romans. The fall came from the betrayal of Mordred and Guenever, not from Arthur's hubris.

In the GPC as written, many allies of Mordred are precisely the victims of the imperial arrogance of the Britons seeking revenge.

I loved the tale of sir Bartrem. It always better when the public and the artist can interract ^^

I like how you linked Uther's shame with his illness. It's a good idea, even if I prefer the idea of a curse myself.

1 hour ago, KungFuFenris said:

This session was pretty cool. And it was, believe it or not, just more consequences from the Winter Phase. Newton was supposed to be raided while Aldwyn and the rest of them were off to Malahaut, but when they decided not to go, I need to make something out of it. So, this was not the planned Adventure, but just socializing and a few Saxons dropping in for some payback.

And yet, it was strangely one of your best years, IMO ^^. Sometimes, you have to let your campaign breathes, so to speak. 

1 hour ago, KungFuFenris said:

Gareth the Bard had even arrived, eager to earn a coin by the generosity of Aldwyn, who among the Old Faith was known to have Llew’s Blessing.

Llew? Probably more Ogma/Ogmios, I would say. But the celtic pantheon is such a mess for me anyway

The death of lady Esmee was a beautiful and sad tale. Was she the last of the original knights?

I love how things look so grim. Their beautiful alliance for nothing against the might of the Saxons...

18 hours ago, BioKeith said:

Duke Corneas

His official name is duke Corneus. Why the change?

In my campaign, Derfel is his grandson (the duke in 531) and Bedivere and Lucan the Butler (Two famous RTK and close companions of Arthur) are youngest sons of Corneus, based of the canon.

18 hours ago, BioKeith said:

Also present was Prince Cynric of Wessex with a more threatening message. He declared that the time had come for Salisbury to swear vassalage or face the consequences.

I was a bit surprised by his bluntness. I was under the impression was the alliance with Wessex was more solid. By the way, king Cerdic could suggest that Robert becomes his ward, to learn both kymric and saxon ways ^^

4 hours ago, Adaras said:

As the player of Tywyn

Congrats! It's a dark but satisfying ending to his tale ^^

16 hours ago, KungFuFenris said:

There's a lot of thing's I'd have done differently. But all in all, it made for a really good story.

I love how you handled the trial. In the GPC, I dislike this railroading-fest, and I am impressed how you manage to create a beautiful tale.

a fitting ending to the life of sir Luc. Well done!

22 hours ago, BioKeith said:

Sir Cedric and Sir James both delivered the eulogy, speaking movingly of their old friend.

Did your players roleplay that part?

I like this year ^^. The wedding especially. Did you combine the little adventures found in Tales of Magic and Miracles (or something like that) ? Anyway, well done. Why did the Picts attack?

And what is the deal with sir Luc? How did he manage to be cured? 

13 hours ago, BioKeith said:

Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Happy Christmas ! 

50 minutes ago, Voord 99 said:

I don’t know.   It’s obviously different from how the GPC expects play to be.  But I think there’s room for adding this kind of horror to something that’s already a bit of a genre hybrid.   After all, the entire Anarchy is one single sentence in Malory.  The appearance of weird and disturbing supernatural events can be seen as a symbolic reflection of the absence of a king.

I agree with you (especially the symbolic part, well done!). There is room for this kind of stuff (and I loved some previous creepy adventures before). It's just...this last adventure was too much to my taste, altering the tone if you want. It's a matter of personal taste.

In the campaign of Bio Keith, I like Syagrius as the Big Bad. But I always think you have to be especially careful with the dark powers in KAP, in order to be faithful to the genre.

14 hours ago, BioKeith said:

n news from the North, it was rumoured that King Nentres had died in some kind of accident, leaving Queen Elaine (Ygraine's daughter) to rule.

What??? ^^

14 hours ago, BioKeith said:

On a more personal note, the Countess Ellen’s daughter, Lady Jenna, turned 18, and had begun to attract many suitors. Her hand in marriage would certainly be a significant bargaining chip in any future diplomacy.

Considering the events of your campaign, a wedding with the prince Cynric seems the best option ^^

14 hours ago, BioKeith said:

From a prisoner, it was revealed that many groups of raiders had been dispatched by King Aelle in revenge for the previous year. Sir Hightower clasped 'Marshal Esmee' by the arm and swore to bring his renegade knights back to Sarum to swear homage to Lady Ellen and departed. As the peasants put out the last few fires in the cool night air, a lone rider approached the grounds.

I was very surprised with this change of heart of Hightower. I am unconvinced ^^

Otherwise, I didn't like the adventure with the abbey.  It looks out of place with KAP to my taste.  I think the Anarchy is the best when you fight against the Saxons. They are the real threat. IMHO, with all your adventures with dark powers, the Saxons are forgotten, I'm afraid.

I loved the appearance of "the Arbiter", and I liked how Syagrius became your main bag guy.

The alliance with Wessex is especially interesting. Maybe a wedding between the prince Cynric and the lady Jenna is in the air? ^^

On 12/9/2020 at 12:36 PM, KungFuFenris said:

How little they knew, as at the same time, something had transpired in the castle of Tintagil.

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Yeah. We ain't done yet. Tywyn is at Tintagil, where things are about to get weird.

What? You can not end the post like that. You can not!!!

Read your 496 year. Who is Hightower?

Otherwise, it was not bad for a first year. I would have put more internal troubles to handle, with many ambitious knights from Salisbury trying to push their claims.

I like your 495 session, especially the bit about the suspects. Your Players are bold to even try a passion roll, after so many fumbles ^^

I didn't notice sir Petra before. I suppose she is a "she".

You are sweet with your players. I would have kill one player in the infamous feast. You know, make it personal.  Otherwise, it's good. How many have lady Esmee in battle?

494. I like the year. I would not have the adventure of the Gryffon played during Uther's reign, but why not after all ^^ It makes the poisoning of king Canan more impredictable.

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As well, one of Luc’s cousins, Fleur, had also disappeared without a trace.

Not Fleur! ^^ Luc is very unlucky by the way.

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Reynard took to his famous oratory, and at last his doggedness seemed to impress something in the black knight, who threw the Lady down to the floor before taking off on his Gryffon, vowing to see Reynard again.

It was unexpected... Love the randomness of KAP, and the knight of the Gryffon will be a good nemesis

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She also seems to have had another bastard of unknown origin over the course of the winter.

I never noticed before Esmee was unfaithful to her husband. Did I miss something?

21 hours ago, Morien said:

But it is close enough that I am convinced that you are correct, and that explains why "Baron of Lambor" is in quotation marks when he is first introduced in the Anarchy castle list.

Yes, and the more I am thinking about it, the more I think that the name Edaris is derived from Edar ( the PK, in an inside joke) So, in some way, we are both right ^^

1 hour ago, Luca Cherstich said:

K! It seems like the whole situation is messy enough in terms of published events that I can change what I dislike as much as I want without conflicting with anything in the GPC (at least with this version of the GPC....only God know what the future 4-volumes GPC will tell about it).

That's the spirit The only certainty is that there is no more duke of the west march (or whatever his title was) during the reign of Arthur.

The only dukes came from an older time (Lindsey, Silchester), and in the case of Silchester, the title was not given to his son.

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I loved the waelwolf. Very creepy.

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The quest of four holy waters. Love it! Except, your PKs failed miserably, didn't they ?

Otherwise, I am less fond of the GPC parts. You follow the script, but do you have fun?

What Morien suggested is a good idea, but Edar, baron of Lambor is an easter egg from the Lindsey's GPC campaign of Greg Stafford.

http://satnightpendragon.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-06-07T08:20:00-07:00&max-results=7&start=7&by-date=false

Edar managed to become count of Leicester during the Anarchy. He is not related to Edaris at all (despite the names!). We can suppose that Edaris died with his descendance.

So basically, you can do whatever you want with Edaris and his children. Whatever is the best for your campaign.

Your houserules are very different from RAW.

19 hours ago, OldeMusicke said:

Do these uses of Chaste and Lustful overlap with Modest and Proud, Pious and Worldly, or Temperate and Indulgent? Maybe, but so be it.

IMO, it's important as a GM to know what is each virtue. You can be a merry fellow, and still being chaste, and modest, and even pious.

The personality traits are essentials to the rules (for exemple, for the bonus of chivalry).

On 10/31/2020 at 4:32 AM, weasel fierce said:

A guy with 6D6 damage does 22 on average. Which means a knight with 16 armor is going to get hurt a bit and needs to roll for knock down. 

Yeah, and a guy with partial plate armor, armor of courtesy and his shield have 14+3+6=23 points of protection to protect himself. The partial armor is so effective, that I don't want to implement plate armor in my game.

I know many people play during Uther's reign today, but the norman chainmail is supposed to be a little weak.

22 hours ago, Mugen said:

hat is, if you agree with the choice made by Greg Stafford to associate the Ganis family with Aquitaine.

Yes, this choice of Greg Stafford came from Malory, but to be clear, I don't like it either.

Traditionnaly, the kingdoms of Ganis and Benoic are smaller, like the old Poitou (or Anjou?) cut in two parts. So, their rival, the kingdom of Claudas can be smaller too. And Clandas can become a vassal of the "king of Gaul" (his capitole is supposed to be Bourges in the Berry region), himself.

In my campaign, I kept the Occitan Part, and I realized latter it was a mistake.

11 hours ago, MelronPeredor said:

We have Silence and Avenable/Grisandole from their stories (basically the same story Woman hides she is a woman becomes the King/Emperor best knight) Le roman de Silence being the best version as far as I am concerned, but the archetype is interesting in both versions.

I was surprised no one spoke of it before. Clearly, this "feministic" ( (this word is anachronistic for a medieval story) arthurian tale is not well known, even among the more feminist parts of the fandom.

It was always my take as a GM. I allow female knights as "special" in a world of men, and of course, as PK as well. It's just not a given.

14 hours ago, weasel fierce said:

The "4D6 crit" was employed as well and was likewise agreed to be an improvement.

Just for the record. I am against it. When you double the damages, big monsters and the like (a berserker by example) are really scary. They can kill you in one shot. Players know that and act accordingly.

With the +4d6 rule, if you have a good armour, especially in the latter phases, you feel secured. It's really hard to hurt you. The "double damage" rule mitigate this feeling.

18 hours ago, Voord 99 said:

Also, this is a bit parochial (I’m from Ireland), but I am not really a fan of official Pendragon Ireland, and since presumably there will be an Ireland supplement book, that’s an area where I think there’s room for significant changes without it having to disturb much else.

I don't know how to handle Ireland myself. Except Tara (530), my players never go adventuring there. I am not a fan of the colonization of the island as portrayed in the GPC.

I am not a fan of France either. The GPC tried to mix the arhurian legend (with Claudas), the historical merovingian kingdoms, and the hundred years' war. It's a mess, and not a good one.

I especially dislike the fusion of Claudas and the historical Clovis.

In each case (Ireland and France), the british knights look like dirty imperialists full of themselves, raiding and conquering. They look like the villains of the story.

I would much prefer the arthurian version. You have a king of Gaul, Pharamon, vassal to the Emperor of Rome. You have king Claudas of the waste land, a regional king, and his sworn ennemies of Benoit and Ganes.