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Thank you very much for this review, now I am really looking forward to see

BRP published.

The skills are the most important part for me, too. Well, it would have been

nice to have rules for the construction of robots and starships, but it should

not be too difficult to find a solution for this.

As for Worlds Beyond, I do not know it myself, but I have been told that it

is not worth the money, because it has a lot of gaps and it is not well

edited at all - but this is hearsay, I never really saw it.

Thank you very much, I really had almost forgotten about it, and it is rather

interesting to read it again after a long time.

Once the torture has ended and you have found some time to read, could

you please write a few words about BRP and SF in your "BRP and Future

campaign" thread - please ?

Because, waiting for that means torture for me ...

Well, do you like the Science Fiction parts of Edition Zero, or do you consider

them insufficient to begin a Science Fiction campaign ?

I seem to remember that there is a Future World PDF somewhere on the

Internet, because I used it before I discovered Cthulhu Rising, and I ne-

ver owned a copy of WoW.

I have started to add the information to the Trade Goods list, and the Soo-

lie to the Races list. If I missed something, or got something wrong, please

tell me, or just edit the list.

The names of the people seem a little bit confusing, we now seem to have

Nifara, Nifarites and Nifirites, and I am not sure whether there are real dif-

ferences, or only different names for the same people ?

Thank you !

Unfortunately no, not really.

They have a sad tendency to suddenly give up on games which do not sell

"good enough". However, Warhammer will doubtless sell well, and therefore

should be "out of danger".

Ah, then you must be one of those kids who came to the kindergarten soon

after I had grown out of it !

Currently it is probably Cthulhu Rising, because the Ringworld RPG will hardly

count as a supplement, and Cthulhu Now is a close second at the moment.

In the Traveller universe the Syleans once used to ride eight-legged lizards,

looking somewhat like a brontosaurus (long tail, long neck, small head), but

with a head more like a pterosaurus (long "beak", sharp teeth). Such a beast

(named a "poni" - misunderstandings programmed ...) was about 8 Meters

long, from (outstretched) head to (outstretched) tail, with the body half of

the length, and could probably carry at least two humans.

Soltakss probably is right, a map of the entire world really has the advantage

to make it easier to fit additional creations into it and connect them to the

other regions - I did not think of that. Well, I am still used to pen and paper-

maps, and changing anything on them is a nasty job (I still have to get used

to computers ...).

Otherwise, I think all the ideas mentioned are fine.

I think animal-riding tribes are a logical idea for steppes and deserts, and I

am really looking forward to seeing your ideas.

As I understood Puck's sketch, there should also be mountains "north" and

"west" of The Green, turning The Green into a wet basin that is surrounded

on three sides by mountains and opens to the "south" to the sea, and being

more narrow at the "northwestern" end and more broad in the "east " ?

Besides, I would propose to start with one region (from The Green to the Sky

Mountain), and add other regions later, as they are developed by and by. It

seems that up to now there are no proposals what these regions should look

like, so you would have to invent them on your own - and then probably to

change them again and again, as ideas and proposals are developed.

The "boiling waters" around Sky Mountain seem to have gone out of fashion

somewhat, currently all the proposals seem to include deserts around Sky

Mountain ...

Something more fantasy-like ... "Masters of the Trees' Bounty" ... ah, no ...

fantasy obviously is not my field.

As for the way the products are made and work, I fully agree.

P.S.: I have added the Nifara to the list. I have also moved the list to the

wiki, so that it is more easy to find, and others can edit it, too.

Right now I am particularly trying to find a cool name for Tree-alchemists or resin-tappers, who work with tree resins, potions, poisons and stuff. I just cannot think of a fitting name that rolls off the tongue.

They work with resins ... what about "Resineers" ?

Yes, this is a very interesting system. The main criticism I have heard about

it is that Savage Worlds is something like a "dice producers' conspiracy to

sell more dice", because you seem to need a small bucket full of dice to play

the game.

The trend in the discussions I did read goes towards one sort of dice only,

usually D6 or D%.

When a contradiction arises, it's not a problem - it's an opportunity ...

Of course, you are right, and that is what I meant: To discuss the contradiction, find an interesting explanation, and edit that into the wiki.

Bad wording by me, sorry.

I am also not sure how people would prefer to handle it here, but I would

propose:

- sub-categories instead of one long posting, because they make it easier

to find and edit things,

- additions to the sub-categories in question instead of multiple wiki entries

on the same subjects.

If there are problems with contradictions etc., we could discuss them here

in the forum (or, with minor questions, perhaps even per PM), and then edit

the wiki accordingly, I think.

P.S.: I like the new Trogod notes !

I have edited the list on the previous page accordingly.

When I look at the discussions in the forums over here, the words used most

often when writing about potential new systems are "generic" and "simple".

One system that has made a great impact on the discussion seems to be "Sa-

vage Worlds" (which I do not really know), and many would-be game desig-

ners mention it as a good example for an approach to new systems.

Ah, "Ratten !" is not my project, and it has no similarity with "Bunnies and

Burrows". In fact, the rats of the game are rather mean creatures - more

"World of Darkness" than "Watership Down", I think.

Unfortunately I cannot explain here what makes it special (I do not want to

clutter the thread, and I would run into language problems), but it really is

different from the average run-of-the-mill RPG.

And there I see the problem for companies like WOTC. To make the profits

they need they have to produce for the mainstream market and cannot af-

ford to take risks and make experiments. WOTC will have to ride the D&D-

"horse" until it drops dead.

This opens the doors for small companies, which can try out new ideas in

new ways (PDFs etc.), and some of these new projects will one day have

the potential to win against then outdated and dull games like D&D.

To turn players from the free option companies have to lower their prices or raise their hype.

I am not so sure about this, because sometimes it could be more useful to

have a good and innovative idea.

Over here a group of fans wrote an RPG named "Ratten !" ("Rats !"), where

the players' characters are, well, rats. They published the game as a free

PDF, used the feedback to expand and improve the game, then published

a print version (on demand), and now are working on a translation into Eng-

lish, and have started to create several other RPGs, including a new gene-

ric system.

What first seemed to be a really stupid idea (I mean, rats ?) has turned into

an - albeit still very small - business success, because the authors had a lot

of truly good and new ideas, a fresh approach to RPGs.

So, no lowered price (from free PDF to print version) and no raised hype (al-

most no hype at all), and still at least a remarkable success.

And "Ratten !" is only one example of several successful projects of this kind.

Sure, the market is changing rapidly, but in my opinion for the better.

Hello and Welcome, Saving Throw !

Yep, and there will be the incredibly evil Cult Of Spawners and Skinners,

with lots of Spawning Spells and Skinning Spells, and thousands of trained

Giant War Frogs, most of them used to pull frog-shaped war chariots !

Okay, I have put the Kraecheeth on the list (which is only meant to record

ideas and proposals, nothing in any way final).

The Gates could well have caused the mutations of the Kraecheeth. In a sci-

ence fiction setting the Gates could be described as disintegrating a "passen-

ger" at Point A and reintegrating him at Point B. If the process of reintegra-

tion is somehow manipulated, or the Gate is malfunctioning, the "passenger"

could well be "transformed" into something different.

If the Azchirgnoth had found a way to manipulate the Gates ...

By the way, Soltakss (I hope I got his name right ...) has just edited the

myths in the Wiki, bringing them in line with your description of the past; I

think he has done a very fine job.

And another thought (rather a question): Do you have any idea who built

the Gates ?

Edit.: Ah, I have found it, the Akershule created the Gates.

Here is a short list of the races that have been mentioned until now.

I have no doubt that I did forget some, and that some of the connec-

tions I made are wrong.

So, please tell me what to change, and I will edit this posting accor-

dingly.

Akershule ( = Azchir = Ancients ?) [extinct / undead]

- created / opened the Gates ?

Ashuli ("octopoids", very rare) [deep sea]

- came through one of the Gates

Humans (barbarians, corsairs, Freelings, etc.) [everywhere]

- Nifara [The Green, trees]

Kraecheeth (summoned creatures, many sub-species) [wherever summoned]

- possibly chaos mutations created through the Gates ?

Lizard People ( = Troodon = Dinosauroids ?) [The Green]

Mamprusi ("swamp apes") [The Green]

Orms (including Naga and Dragon Brood) [The Green]

Tree Kraken [The Green]

Trogod (Goblins) [The Green, surrounding mountains ?]

- Grulk (Hobgoblins / "Orks" ?)

- Karee ("Elves" ?)

- Kweeg

True Elves ( = The Shea ?, very rare) [The Green or undead ?]