Ladygolem

Agreed, the new character folio is amazing! The amount of work here is astounding, good job!

EDIT: moved to Corrections thread.

One thing that always bugged me about Wind Children: aren't birds Fire/Sky aligned? Why are so many Storm creatures / people winged and feathered?

On 11/29/2021 at 1:45 PM, David Scott said:

For my praxian games, I use the following per hide numbers for sacred time calculations:

  

What numbers would you put for the lesser tribes? Rhinoceros, ostriches, bolo lizards maybe even, unicorns (???) I'm sure there's yet more I'm missing.

The issue with rhino at least is that unlike the other Praxian herd-beasts they're not naturally sociable, so it's hard to provide "accurate" figures.

1 hour ago, Alex said:

If you're using the RQG rules for those, and if characters display their rune-preferences anything like as prominently as they have in decades of art, alynx might be out of the bag on that!

Darn, I forgot about that. Oh well, scratch that then.

Theory: people know their birthdays, but don't celebrate them or even acknowledge them publicly. This is because knowledge of a person's birth runes can be used by enemies to strengthen curses or hostile magic against that person - similar to IRL superstitions around leaving hair or nail clippings.

Instead, you have collective coming of age days as mentioned above. In addition, I can see cult holy days doubling as sort of an equivalent of Catholic name days. Initiates of Orlanth might all count their age every Windsday, Movement Week, Storm Season together. Or maybe people count their years by every Sacred Time?

My variation on broo is mostly inspired by Warhammer's "legally distinct" versions of them - the Gor or "Beastmen". In that setting they're more the result of a sort of chaotic cattle plague that turns beasts to men and vice versa. Chaos tainted groundwater, a furious ancestor's curse or the meddling of a evil-minded warlock may lead to one's fattened herds to rise upon two legs and turn against their owners! I think it ties into their theme of filth and disease, as well as the mythological trend of plagues as divine punishment; it also makes for some more interesting adventure hooks as well.

PS. Forgot to mention, it also explains why most broo look like domestic animals - goats, sheep, cattle etc.

11 hours ago, borbetomagnus said:

With regard to the GW Warhammer line -- are these Kharadron Overlords true to the 28mm base scale or are they closer to 32mm?

According to the product description, they are mounted on 25mm bases. They're a mite taller than the bases are wide (judging by eye, mind) so I'd say they're probably a little under 28mm tall exactly. So next to 'true' 28mm humans, they're pretty chunky. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though, as I don't recall there being any source definitively stating how tall Mostali are, exactly, apart from being squat in shape. I'm sure there will be a dozen replies calling me a moron and proving me wrong within minutes of my submitting this reply, however. 😉

13 hours ago, Darius West said:

For example, when a mountain is actually a giant, or a dragon.  How does one understand that within the mythology?  I mean, think about it.  A giant man rune sits down and becomes a physical manifestation of law. 

Ah, but are not Giants also strongly tied to the Disorder rune? The same process could thus be described as "when a Giant's connection to the Disorder rune weakens, they become mountains". You could take this further, and posit that Giants are really just mountains with too much Disorder messing up their Law, causing them to start walking around and causing mischief instead of staying put like a good Lawful mountain should!

That is very true. One one hand, the bigger models do often look better... on the other, it does reduce their compatibility with other miniature systems and drives up prices - both good things from GW's perspective, unfortunately, so they're unlikely to stop anytime soon. At least these guys are dwarves, and the scale will roughly balance out hopefully.

In 28mm, I think GW Kharadron Overlords make pretty good Iron Mostali.

10 hours ago, Nevermet said:

This isn't perfectly on topic, but taking an idea from Jeff, here are some size comparisons for Maniria:

Look how closely the Manirian coast lines up with Lousiana! My takeaway from this is that clearly Slontos was Florida, and thus the Closing may have looked something like this:

Furry solidarity

Iirc, the way it's explained in Griffin Mountain is that the tribes are not quite so different than the ones in Sartar as one might expect but still not the same. On of the main benefit of allying one's clan with a citadel tribe is that the citadels have standing armies, which (theoretically) can be counted on for military support in inter-clan conflict. The citadel kings also function as adjudicators and tiebreakers. However, unlike in Sartar, there's no particular sense of tribal loyalty and clans will switch allegiances often as needed.

That's the extent as explicitly stated but of course, that's not necessarily the whole story. As @Ali the Helering said, we can imagine in our Gloranthas a higher degree of economic and cultural cooperation beyond the pure military alliance of convenience.

Concept: there could have been lions in Dragon Pass (and perhaps there were once, before Tada killed Basmol), but their ecological niche as apex predators is occupied by sakkar sabretooths. There's enough large prey animals living in the area (cattle, dinosaurs, are there mastodons this far south?) that they don't go extinct like in real life. Thus, the sakkar could have the same sort of symbolic significance as lions do in historical cultures.

This brings up an question tho: if there's still lions in Maniria and Peloria, why don't the Praxian Basmoli migrate there and reconnect with their leonine kin? That could make a neat plot hook, honestly.

Awesome, thanks for clearing it up.

17 hours ago, Grievous said:

Where stands the concept of the ruling "ring" nowadays?

How does it relate to the "Thane?"

Going by the King of Dragon Pass game, they are two seperate categories. You have your clan ring of seven upstanding members of the community (and the occasional Eurmali) who convene to make decisions and whatnot. You also have a certain amount of thanes, which represent the number mounted horsemen available to you (as opposed to the foot-slogging carls), some of whom may also be members of the Ring. Neither category necessarily implies the other (though if a ring member is a fighter, chances are they'll be a thane).

That was my initial suspicion as well, and makes a lot of sense. The main thing I was thinking of was whether there was some kind of Spirit of Reprisal or similar phenomenon that whacks you in the back of the head if you demand more than 1000L for a neighbouring clan's noble described somewhere that people would take issue with my not acknowledging. Good to know!

Weird little question that came up while writing. Can captors upsell their captives, for instance if they've captured someone vital to a wealthy community? I'm assuming the converse, trying to bargain for a captive clanmate, would be shameful and in bad taste, but is it merely that or is it completely taboo? Basically, is weregild set in stone or is it subject to market variables like other types of monetary transactions?

Warhammer Dryads/ Age of Sigmar Sylvaneth make for some pretty sweet Aldryami inspo in general i find!

These are Kurnoth Hunters done by Steve Wren. I chose this photo over the official one on the Games Workshop store page because the addition of flock really sells them, honestly. The only real change that you'd have to do to make the Sylvaneth range more Gloranthesque is maybe swap out some of the more ostentatious weapons for historically grounded ones.

Speaking of undead sorcerors, nice thread necromancy...

While we're here though:

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While they don't appear to be chaotic, their magics battling with those of the Lunar College broke the boundaries of the world and visited some of the worst backlash to Glorantha within its history.

When/what event would this be referring to?

So kind of pre-feudal proto-knights! As in, the IRL class of privileged warriors that hundreds of years later formed the basis of feudal aristrocracy, right?

Unfortunately I think the Chalana Arroy is the player, not the Morokanth....

Most maps or lists I've seen seem to agree that essentially Ducks constitute their own tribe, which in many cases is treated as just another Sartarite tribe in most respects. Not all, however.

Since the disease is affecting herdmen, not people, shouldn't this be within the purview of an Eirithia priestess?

Don't Humakti forsake clan ties upon initiation? That could provide a convenient solution.