theconfusingeel

I think a good way to look at gloranthan cults and gods is as archetypes, so Issaries is the archetype of traders, orlanth thunderous is the archetype of storms, orlanth rex the archetype of kings and so on. I think this is part of why the god learner goddess swap didn't work, those goddesses were archetypically the lands they represent, you can't really take them to another place. The reason why tere's a unified SM cult is that the gods that are part of it participated in the rebirth of the RG, and as such they represent the start of the lunar religion, that's their archetype.To be part of them is to be part of the lunar way, which is useful to people living in the lunar empire.

So browsing the well of daliath I found two articles about cult compatibility which give specific details about cult relationships, but in the cultbooks we only the vague likes and dislikes section. My question is if there's any other place that has this kind of specific information? Cause those two articles seem to be the only places.

I imagine chaosium wants to attract new players to it's games. Having to buy decades old books to play the game wouldn't be a very good idea.

Well the darkness book will apperantly cover the exact same cults as Troll Gods(with the exception of Arkat who is replaced by Jajajgapa and possibly Inora) so I imagine it won't be that different from the old material

well my interpretation would be that night appeared after Yelm died, with Xentha appearing around then(thought day didn't exist then). in a more general sense, I think the great compromise-dawn myths represent the origin of cyclical phenomena in glorantha(days,seasons,ages) and as such I dodn't think the sun dissapeared from the sky in any way before the greater darkness. I know there's some stuff in the entekosiad, but i haven't read that.

he's also reborn at every dawn What importance it has really depends on what the compromise was going for. It's possible that yelms dying and coming back to life happens so that xentha can mentain part of her rulership of the surface world, so that both darkness and light can be happy.

https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/cults-of-runequest-series/runequest-gods-of-glorantha-previews-2019/ The water cult list was expanded with the major gods that weren't there previously, so I guess those are fully confirmed now. Brastalos is listed twice thought edit:it was changed back

https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/gloranthan-documents/prosopaedia/deities/l/lorian/ Lorion is outright called the sky river titan, the same as engizi "Manthi and Natea have three children, two of whom rule over the two deep Oceans of the Surface World. Sshorg is the Prince of the Ocean of Terror, and he has many descendants of varying power who can command parts of the sea. " There are sea gods that rule over different seas and oceans. The geneaology also has sea gods descended from Banthe and Sshorg edit: looking at it again, the waters of the world section mentions oceans withc are their own thing. Still these waters are ruled by sea gods, who are probably worshipped in a way similar to land gods.

Aren't the land godess equivalents the sea gods themselves? Like the god of the Sshorg sea is Sshorg, Manthi is king of all sea creatures, not of some place. plus Lorian is Engizi and he's already included

It does seem like they're going to cover some gods mostly worshipped by mermen(like drospoly), so I think it's going to include merman perspectives too. Either way to reply to your other comment I don't know if going off the mythology god list is going to be that useful, because it's based of what gods were included in the water section of the gods of glorantha book, and now that it's a separate book I think they're going to add a lot more to it(seeing that most of the other cult books have around 15 cults, and this would have 7 in that state)

there's actually 13, triolina is mentioned twice cause I copy pasted that from the article. The first list is from a preview of the gods of glorantha book from back in 2019, and there Oslira was separate from Engizi. It's possible that they might restructure river cults into one section now but who knows. Also does sramak have a cult? he seems more import genealogically to me. Maybe we'll get a "merpak" to go along with it.

Annilla is part of the darkness book, plus it speciffically says Brastalos gets a writeup "With the exception of the Invisible God and Jotimam, we have write-ups of all of these cults coming out soon. Including Sea Gods, I have write-ups for Brastalos, Daliath, Drospoly, Murthdrya, Nelat, Tholaina, and Triolina." https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/greater-and-major-gods/

Going off the well of Daliath the water book includes 7 cults(Magasta,Oslira,Engizi,Choralinthor,Dormal,Triolina and Wachaza), these being from the time there was just one cult book for all the pantheons. The greater and major gods post says that all major gods are getting write ups and specifically includes the sea gods, naming Brastalos, Daliath, Drospoly, Murthdrya, Nelat, Tholaina, and Triolina. Now my question is, apart from these , what other gods could be included? I'm mostly curious because i don't think most of these cults have gotten write ups before and the water pantheon hasn't really been covered in detail.

Is Hon-eel worshiped in Vithela?

I remember that the blood sun cultists in Peloria were converts. The guide mentions this, including specifically a guy who teaches in the Lunar empire. edit: Is it possible that Octamo or the blood sun are verithurus(a)? Verithurus is directly related to sedenya, plus there's it's sometimes regarded as female and sometimes as male which Octamo also does(thought you could say with verithurusa it's a case of different cultures interpreting the same god in different ways than it being an actual trait they had)

Is the blood sun really Sedenya? I remember it has some cultists in the Lunar empire, so I can't imagine it's just a regional identification. Plus I assume both of these cults existed before the red moon rose

I was browsing the well of daliath and I found out that one of the vormaino gods, octamo, has a moon rune, whih caught me off guard because I thought only gods associated with Sedenya had it. Does anybody know more about him? Or at least does anybody have any good theories about him? also I hope I'm not posting too much on here,excuse me if I'm doing that

I allready know that stuff, but my question was about a specific manifestation(Arkat vs Nysalor). In a way I was asking about the opposite situation, time influencing myth, which apperantly can't happen without heroquesting

So what are lunar heroquests anyways? I remember reading somewhere that lunars tend to do new heroquests, but I don't really understand what that means. Plus are there non-godtime heroquests? Or is that just the mortal world type?

And what is the official story exactly?

If events in time don't translate to myth, In what way can you interact with these gods on heroquests? Is it that you can interact with the mythich reflection of them doing heroquests? Reading other sources apperantly if somebody has a hero soul you can meet them on the hero plane, and Arkat encountered himself. Edit:sorry if I'm asking a lot of question, I'm just curious about this stuff. It helps that I don't exactly know the limitations of heroquesting

so events in time don't have any reflection on the hero plane? also knda dissapointing on the Arkat-nysalor thing, Orlanth-Yelm isn't as cool 😥

NowI'm gionna start this thread with something kinda funny, I thought about asking this earlier today but the forum was down, and while I was waiting I read some things about Sheng seleris, and at some point i went on some forum and midway through reading some thread I realised it was this place so I was like"oh, this is BRP". Anyways, I wanted to ask if people can go on heroquests for lunar new gods? For example, is it possible to do a heroquest about something one of the seven mothers or Hon-eel did? I'm asking mostly because I don't know how heroquests about things that happened in time work(and as a additional thing that just popped into my mind right now, could I heroquest Arkat fighting Nysalor?)

I should have really used a term other than destruction 😅 I guess my idea was that chaos is a force that wants to turn glorantha into itself, and so it wants to destroy it.

It's funny you say that because I'm more of a lunar person too 😄I just have a diferent view on these things