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Has anyone created a scenario or something for PCs that participate in the Battle of Pennel Ford? My campaign is reaching that time and I am thinking of letting them be involved in the battle. 

My PCs plan to visit Dunstop to kidnap Fazzur Wideread (its a long story). I know that there is no ”official” write-up of him. But if anyone have made one would I really appreciate it if you would DM me the details for inspiration. 

I have a Lanbril PC in my group and the player is interested in getting more powers and secret knowledge thru heroquesting. I find very little about Lanbril in the Stafford Library books and wonder if there exists any other published (canon or not) sources.

This is great as all PCs in my campaign is initiated to one of the cults covered in this book. 

Reading the last parts of King of Sartar feels very much like reading the Book of Revelations in the Bible.

On 6/1/2023 at 12:09 PM, Nick Brooke said:

To the best of my players’ knowledge, Vasana & Co. don’t exist in my game. Why would we care what her Saga says? It’s fiction.

I actually consider Vasana & Co as potential NPCs. One of my players wanted to play Vasana so we adapted her to our Six Seasons in Sartar campaign. We made her (and the bison) younger and changed her family. Vasana is the nice to the clan chief and her half-sister Yanioth exists. But the PCs havent met her.

Our Vasana actually met Argrath in Pavis in late 1620 and early 1621. They even had a one-night stand at a Winds day orgy.

Rules-wise this should be possible to learn for non-Yelmalio. Even if all the ”masters” are in the cult.

Thanks @Crel. Did you feed the PCs information about the myths and rumors about the Greenwillow. In the printed scenario they get the information about the missing kids from the mayor but not so much information about the dryad. I like the adventure but it seems to lack the link where the PCs gets more information.

1 minute ago, Qizilbashwoman said:

substituting people for the Lightbringer's quest is how we ended up with the Red Moon in the first place. They clearly were riffing off the Lightbringers' quest. The details might be different (we don't know AFAIK), but largely they did katabasis for the Sun Moon.

Yes. The heroquest made by the Seven Mothers is definitely an experimential heroquest based on the LBQ. With a lot of differences but also strong similarities. Yanafal Tarnils is a Mother but Humakt was not part of the LBQ.

Is it possible to buy the ”new” Griselda stories as pdf:s? I would like to read them all but it would be quite expensive to buy them all from rolled.up. 

My PCs may need to free a hostage being held by Fazzur Wideread in his family estate. Is there any published information about Dunstop, the Orindori clan or Fazzur's estate?

Great episode!

On 4/12/2022 at 5:14 AM, svensson said:

How well would an Ernalda temple 'work' in Prax? It was ritually blasted of most of its Fertility [Rune and literally] in the Gods Age, after all. And one wonders how the Paps Mothers would react, given an 'competing' temple so close to their center of power.

 

Prax is a large region and Ernalda is worshipped as a wife to Yelmalio in Sun County. The sartarites living in and around Pavis is also probably worshipping Ernalda. But Eiritha is much more important in the less fertile parts of Prax.

My main issue isn't that content is slow to create. I definitely prefer great hero questing rules to good-enough heroquesting rules. And that can take time.

My issue is with things like only having one layout person for RQG and other things that slows down the publication of content that is already created. IF (and a strong IF, I dont know) the long-form description of say (to use an old joke) Kyger Litor is already set in stone. When I don't want to wait for 18-24 more months to buy that content because there is a need of more art, only one layout person and shipping issues to five warehouses. Different artists, 1-2 more layout persons and a pdf-first policy would probably speed up things a bit. 

And, as has been mentioned before, the JC content is great. But new customers don't really see that stuff when they look at the Chaosium web. They see that the most recently stuff published was W&E in 2021 (if we excludes some pure nostalgia products).

But I trust Chaosium and are optimistic by nature. But clone Jeff - or give full time contracts to people lika Andrew Logan Montgomery - and hire some more artists and layout person. And reconsider the pdf-first policy.

9 minutes ago, Brian Duguid said:

Do RuneQuest people live in complete isolation from the rest of the world? I'm with @g33k here. Seriously?

I've just watched a trailer for a film I won't be able to watch until seven months time. I've been watching one of the Jonstown Compendium authors sharing preview text and art for his next book for what feels like 12 months ahead of its release (and I saw a physical preview copy of that five months ago - wait, am I an influencer now?)

It's called "hype". It's about raising anticipation, about getting people excited, in the hope that excitement will prove infectious. And marketing the Cults books to the non-core audience is not about selling the Cults books to them, at least, that's surely not the sole point: it's about building brand awareness, about getting people aware that there's something exciting going on over here. That takes time. Yes, they may buy the Starter Set first. But it may be the marketing of the Cults books, with all their amazing art and content, that makes people aware this is a product line which is alive and kicking and filled with cool things. You build to a big bang and you make as much of it as you can. You want actual physical books that people can open and hold in their hands and tell their friends how impressed they were. You don't dribble out a few PDFs for the people who will buy it anyway, whenever it lands, only to have that wider audience tell you at Gencon "what's the fuss? You were selling this as PDF four months ago - it's old news".

I think you have very good arguments regarding brand awareness. But I also think that you cant take the people "who will buy it anyway" for granted. I cant get why it is a good sales strategy to release the BRP Book and Rivers of London books as pfd:s first but a bad strategy to do it for the Cults Book. The sales arguments for a coordinated release date is much stronger for new product lines (and for things like the Starter Set).

5 hours ago, g33k said:

... is this a serious question? 
Because honestly, there are some pretty obvious answers ...

I absolutely get the marketing arguments if you release it to influencers a couple of days, maybe a week, before you release it to the public. But who will buy the books in August just because Ibrahim sent a tweet four months before that?

I dont think marketing means that much for the Cults book. Their target audience is mostly people who already own the core rules. People who have bought the Starter Set will probably buy the core rules before they buy the cults book. Marketing is extremely important for things like the Starter Set. But not for the cults book. And Chaosium have the mail addresses to most people who have bought other Runequest products. You dont need influencers to reach them. 

That is also why I dont get why Chaosium dont let us buy pdf:s with coupons for the Cults Book. You can do that if you buy products that definitely needs marketing (and where a coordinated could have its merits) such as the BRP Book and Rivers of London. But I dont think a pdf-first policy for the Cults book would affect the sale.

But IF the pdf:s were available for sale this week, when the tweet by Abraham would have made some sense.

34 minutes ago, radmonger said:

With a bit of minor rewording, it works perfectly as Orlanth the Rider; the regional variant of Orlanth as worshipped by clans where everyone rides horses every day, and so have light cavalry militia.

• Yelmalio (called Elmal) provides Cloud Clear (or maybe something more useful?)
• Hyalor provides Command [Horse],
• Foundchild provides Sureshot
• [tribal founder] provides Truespear. 

As stated above, this is the  Dundealos, Balkoth and Aranwyth tribes, and presumably also the Pol Joni. It doesn't seem likely to me that a clan could have it's militia, and hence most adult males, follow a foreign deity and still count as Orlanthi. A Grazer-style rulership over a farmer underclass seems much more likely. But maybe that's supposed to be a political dynamic that just hasn't actually exploded yet?

 

 

Maybe that's the right idea if you want the "loyal thane". Make him  a subculture of Orlanth. The upcoming Lightbringer Cult book will have Odayla and Voriof as sub cults of Orlanth. So a subcult can worship a different deity and not just a different aspect of him  (like Thunderous and Adventurous). But it doesn't "bring back Elmal" if that is the idea. If you want to have an "Elmal cult" that should probably just be a regional way of worshipping Yelmalio. (Like Waha is a god for butchers in Sartar but a god for warriors and khans in Prax).

Why is influencers like Noura Ibrahim given the printed Cults Book while people who have been waiting for things since before she was born can't even purchase the pdf:s?

19 minutes ago, Akhôrahil said:

Would symmetry suggest that O&E cultists could use spells from Associated Cults during the Windstop, in that case?

Probably not. They get it thru O/E. If its from OR thru O/E it goes away.

Associate cults getting Rune Spells from O or E should also be affected. Not totally but regarding those spells.

YGWV. I think that you could have Elmal as a separate cult worshipping the same god (Yelmalio). Yelm is worshipped in different ways in the Grazelands and among Dara Happan aristocracy. Waha and Orlanth is also worshipped differently in different parts of the world. And I guess that different myths are more or less common in different areas. Most gods also have different names in different regions. The Yelmalio cult is quite civilised. Its not strange if barbarian tribes worship him in different ways. 

I know that a Hero has access to the Mastery Rune and a Superhero the Infinity Rune. But what does that really mean. How do you win those Runes? Do you get it at birth if Orlanth is your father (like Ironhoof)?

I am glad that Runequest is a skill-based and not a level-based rpg. But sometimes I wonder when does someone becomes a hero. It can't just be that you are a hero quester. Many rune lords has made at least one "otherworld" heroquest. 

Maybe a hero is someone who has created a new and unique heroquest? I think it makes sense to state that Argrath becomes a "hero" after he helped Gonn Orta to get a baby and later to bring the Cradle down to Magastas Pool. I don't think that Argrath becomes a "superhero" before the heroquest that brought back Sheng Seleris.

Did Harrek become a superhero after he killed his own god?

Did Jar-Eel become a superhero just by being an incarnation of Monsoon? Or did she have to "do" something"?

On 3/31/2023 at 7:47 AM, Runeblogger said:

It looks like the first batch is already written. Jason posted this on Facebook:

 

Does this picture mean that there won't be a leatherette version of the Prosopaedia? (As there are leatherette versions of the other three books).

1 hour ago, Minlister said:

Thanks! aonther ending I had not thought about! So they killed, Delecti's minion? Did they manage to get his spear? Do you intend to have Delecti try to retrieve it or to use the "Skyfall event" HQ I mentioned as a possibility? 

EDIT : sorry, one more question to go back to the OP: did you find the combat templates useful to track the various HP, MP, RP, of  the NPC? Or is it something that could be discarded in future publications? They take quite a long time to do and the lay-out is not  easy to work out (at last for me).

They didn't killed him but killed is minions and outnumbered him. He challenged the groups Humakti to a duel and lost. The Humakti "pardoned" him if he told them his goals and promised to leave Lysang territory. The spear was broken during the duel (the PCs never understood its value). He picked up the bits and will probably return in a future scenario. I am now starting Company of the Dragon and they will probably meet him when they meet Delicti.

I didn't use the templates that much. I usually only keep strict book keeping for major NPCs. For minions it's like:  1 major hit destroys a hit location , 2 minor hits at the same hit locations destroys it. 2 major or 4 minor hits means unconscious or dead. I have it in my head as I GM. A destroyed head means but but a destroyed leg dont.

8 minutes ago, Minlister said:

@Soccercalle

That's great, thank you for the feedback!

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