Bill the barbarian

5 minutes ago, PhilHibbs said:

It's this idea of treating magic like a computer graphics program that bothers me. The Gloranthan universe is not a calculator that can tell you the area of your weird shape.

Thank you ever so kindly for saying so, I have been carping for my entire time in BRP on that subject!

Glad it worked for you!

7 minutes ago, MOB said:

RuneQuest fans, did you know the Arkham map from Call of Cthulhu first ed (1981) has a #Glorantha easter egg?

 

Haha, yes I did. And did not know it was an easter egg or what an easter egg was in the 80s!

I had quite forgotten that Gahan Wilson had a hand in it.

1 minute ago, Sir_Godspeed said:

I've heard people argue that Air was already around pre-Umath, but that it wasn't animated or embodied the way it later became. I have no idea. 

A possibility I had not postulated!

Darkness, Water or Sun or Earth are the only choices pre-Umath. Unless one could:

a/ breath aether, or
b/ not breath at all!

2 hours ago, Squaredeal Sten said:

Thanks, I have the Gloranthan Classics Griffin Mountain A Moon Design publication, so it's on p.210.

 

No worries, i am lucky enough to have PDFs and hard copy of both. The original is still holding together in a very nice faux leather 3-ring binder, spine long gone, while the Rick Meintz led remake is what got me back into RQ. I was gifted with the G2G hardcovers, RQ 6 and the Griffen Mountain remake back in ‘16. Sweet! 

2 hours ago, thefub said:

I think it would work. You may want to try using the demon creation rules from Advanced Sorcery.

2 hours ago, thefub said:

I think it would work. You may want to try using the demon creation rules from Advanced Sorcery.

So you think that AS will bring the necessary demonology to make Constantine’s LimbQuest a possibility for home use? Not having the BGB, something I will have to resolve, I could get Magic World and Advanced Sorcery. MW is a prerequisite for AS isn’t it?

4 hours ago, Ali the Helering said:

Ducks?  I seem to recall that he has an interest in every one that goes past - Ahgwath, perhaps?

You know, thinking on that point, with his curiosity about the little folk a player or puppeteer troop should make a killing at the Castle!

Page 210 of Griffin Mountain by Moon Design, pages 183-184 of the classic Griffin Mountain by Chaosium

To trade: magic Items, lot’s o’ them. But cheap, no way. Useful, well that depends on the use. Odd items found no where else that can only be bought by small nations, nobles of means, very rich adventurers, odd monsters, information.

Trade for: large trees or large milled lumber, food in  large quantities—think herds, Bushels upon bushels of vegetation etc. Rolls of linen/leather/cloth/ and large furs, large metal tools and household implements. Odd items found no where else that can only be bought by small nations, nobles of means, very rich adventurers. Being a famous site for Trollball, one could assume merch!  Odd monsters, information, goods for an inn. Metals, gems and jewels—magical or mundane.

Just finished watching Constantine with Keanu Reeves <whoa>. And as bad as one might think it could be... my first 10 minutes looking at Keanu Reeves' Honolulu good looks and black hair had me thinking. ‘this is as poorly cast as Interview with a Scientologist... Vampire!'’ Thankfully, I was wrong and it was not John Wicks vs the Devil. Soon after getting into the groove of a back haired John Constantine, that I kept expecting to take out hordes of demons with a HB #2 pencil, I relaxed and started thinking this is ready to be BRPed! I mean if Great Cthulhu could be brought down to BRP level, surely the world is ready for John Constantine’s LimbQuest?

Anyone else thinking so?

Ooh, I love me some A.A. Milne... Let’s see...

“...took the loaded pistol, from the glove compartment...” Now wait a gol’darn second <squints suspiciously>. Something very fishy is goin’ on ‘round here!

🤨

Ooh, and my book finally arrived. Thanks TDM, looks great!

12 minutes ago, svensson said:

And The Professor wrote hobbits with some backbone as well. Witness Bandobras Took bashing the head off an Orc chieftain during the Long Winter, and the various adventures of Merry and Pippin.

And while doing so, inventing golf (hold on, I hate golf)... Down with hobbits!

24 minutes ago, Ian Absentia said:

To each his own.  Some dine from a plate, others feed from a trough.

 

Garcon, more sprinkles for that man’s steak! He looks unhappy, oh and an extra order of Ding Dongs, as well...

Still love me my hobbits, sorry svensson. While you say you hate hobbits, what you are complaining about is DnD and halflings!

 

2 minutes ago, Ian Absentia said:

Some people will put whipped cream and colored sprinkles on their steak.  We must simply not dine with these people.

 

and this is bad?

4 hours ago, simonh said:

I have no problem with hobbit in Tolkien because in his books they are a genuinely novel creation. The Hobbit was explicitly a children's book and I think in that context they're fine. They're a way children can discover this new world through the eyes of a protagonist they can perhaps identify with.

 

Thanks for putting my feelings on the matter into words, simonh!

4 hours ago, simonh said:

What's silly is having hobbits in socially real situations in later fantasy. It's a bit like like unironically finding Winnie the Pooh running a honey stall on the streets of Greyhawk. It would be completely out of tone.

 

Oh, bother!

5 hours ago, simonh said:

What I mean by that is, if the rest of fantasy hadn't spoiled the well on this already they'd be no more out of place than Ducks, but they have no place there now for the same reason Orcs don't, they've been too closely associated with mediocrity.

Yep

Found a couple of freebies for Himiko and Fehérlófia, but could not find a full movie for Freak Orlando. These two are odd,  but they are travel to the “other world”  so should be. Thanks Eff, I will be watching these in the next couple of days!

himiko movie 1974
A freestyle, imagined telling of the life of shaman queen Himiko, who falls in love with her half-brother, making her powers weaken thus putting her position to risk.

Fehérlófia/Son of the White Mare (1981)

One of the great psychedelic masterpieces of world animation, SON OF THE WHITE MARE is a swirling, color-mad maelstrom of mythic monsters and Scythian heroes, part-Nibelungenlied, part-Yellow Submarine, lit by jagged bolts of lightning and drenched in rivers of blue, red, gold and green. A massive cosmic oak stands at the gates of the Underworld, holding seventy-seven dragons in its roots; to combat these monsters, a dazzling white mare goddess gives birth to three heroes - Treeshaker and his brothers - who embark on an epic journey to save the universe. Directed by Hungarian animator Marcell Jankovics (famed for his 1974 Oscar-nominated short Sisyphus), Son of the White Mare has been restored in 4K using the original 35mm camera negative and sound elements by Arbelos in collaboration with the Hungarian National Film Institute

- Film Archive.

https://archive.org/details/son-of-the-white-mare-feherlofia-1981-hungarian-film-english-sub-k-vzkl-4-b-9slvf

1 hour ago, Shiningbrow said:

But what if you're so focussed on training one particular thing, such that you're ignoring everything else (that would be ticked)?

So, instead of 4 occupation experience ticks, and one training roll, you remove the 4 occupation ticks and apply... How many to the one trained skill?

 

Work with your GM and/or your table so that you have more minds that know your campaigns needs, compare what you want to achieve to what you will pay in (remember your responsibilities/debts/expenses/SoL/tithes/taxes/costs of research tools/costs of training* etc.). But me anyways, I would go to the maximum of 1 experience tick to 1 training/research roll, (this is a HR and one I am experimenting with now), what ever I come up with is unlikely to suit your table to a tee, and for that matter my table in every circumstance... flexibility/common sense will be good ) and there is a possible minimum of 4 experience ticks to 1 training/research roll. there's your outliers, what do you (and those you play with) think it should be? Ah, and another limiting thought comes to mind, would one be able to find 5 different professional trainers in any given season who would train you? Again, discuss with those you play with, and get a variety of opinions to work with. 

*If your rewards are as small as they should be in RQ G the cost of training should be prohibitive and should keep your wanting to trade one experience tick for one down training/Research tick to a dull roar... 5 professional skills would cost 450 lunars per season. Even common would cost, 150/season...OUCH! 

Looks a little easier (and cheaper) to just stay with my original thinking upthread. Just one training/research roll with all the other ticks of a student/adventurer. Hmm, well those 4 experience ticks for our s/a will have to cost something but it should only be a fraction of the following.

This is not a home rule I am currently using, but it is becoming close too good enough to be a HR for the future. 
 

14 minutes ago, Baron Wulfraed said:

But the morning after may make some think it was bad air...

There’s a spell for that!

35 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

Nice bit of beefcake you've got there - but wasn't Belintar supposed to have started out as a member of The Blue Man Group?  

 

Propaganda!

48 minutes ago, Brootse said:

You misunderstood me.

Oh, good lords and ladies... surely that would not be the first time I misunderstand anyone 🙂!

48 minutes ago, Brootse said:

For normal RQG campaign where the characters are clannish Sartarite farmers and the like to whom adventuring is only a side gig, the current training rules work okayish. But if you are are running different kinds of scenarios, eg. soldiers in a training camp, or students in the Great Library of Nochet, the current training rules don't work.

Misunderstanding or not, I still ask why one could not use the above rules for such situations as you mention.

An adventurer/student gains 4 skill experience ticks and one skill tick for research or training (for skills without a tick box). One will need no less then 5 weeks/season of study or some penalty will have to apply to gain one POW gain tick for any season with a High Holy Day that the adventurer succeeds with a worship roll (another tick) One adventure can be conducted (variable number of rolls, the adventure should be limited to... say, 3 weeks/season max?) So, at the end of a 4 season year (this amount of time is a suggestion, make it 5 seasons if you can justify it) would give 16 experience ticks and 4 research or training ticks. Plus a chance of a POW tick for an initiate with access to a rune level led worship ceremony at a sanctified site. Or up to four POW ticks for Rune levels that lead worship. (about 30 percentiles added to skills on average, give or take) for a 4 season year of study. Plus adventures....

Decide to use responsibilities upthread I mention, or not... YGWV
ETA and what if all that time is Training, well pay the trainer and uses training rules. 

38 minutes ago, Godlearner said:

I am not a subject matter expert, but in my mind an increase in civilization reduces the number of local spirits. This is were housing starts to become a commodity and the the original question of "how much does it cost?" becomes more relavant.

On the Blue Marble, sure. I say city spirits are an overlooked aspect of the very magical Green Lozenge (cities can not even be built without rituals, I postulate). 

Agreed with the second part, with the above caveat.

ETA Some of those spirits would have to have the Issaries Rune, after all!

‘Bout time I posted... From discord

57 minutes ago, Godlearner said:

I imagine this would be very different than building a house in a town, but in a wilderness doing it without a HeroQuest is likely to fail and bring on several enemies/curses upon oneself.

Can’t see why a city built house should not have the same caveat! 

58 minutes ago, Godlearner said:

The ownership is likely Family or Clan based.

I am not sure of a family ownership amongst Heortlings, this does not sound right. Yes to clan however...

17 hours ago, Diana Probst said:

Distilled Clearwine

May I suggest Clearwine Distilled?