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  1. There's a consistent uncertainty about whether Harrek or the White Bear is the dominant figure in their relationship. This may be a willing partnership- the White Bear yearning to break beyond the bounds of Rathorela and wander the world freely. Of course, for the traumatized people who lost the White Bear's magic as he settled around Harrek's shoulders, this could not have been the case, it must have been cruel blasphemy on the part of the conveniently departed Harrek.
  2. Eff

    Lunar Old Carmania

    This analytical approach certainly offers a different context on Oria and Dendara, as well! I think you could go even further and attribute other liminal/unusual goddesses (Ourania, Gorgorma, etc.) to the similarly liminal figures of Sabrina Spellman and Valerie Smith, especially where they offer crossover points into strange cosmologies. Of course, as dedicated fans of Josie and the Pussycats know, any divine trio is a bit unstable. Prone to breaking down, getting cancelled, having to replace members.
  3. Eff

    Lunar Old Carmania

    A puckish suggestion came to mind- Betty or Veronica as the two axes of the entropic directions. But then you'd have to incorporate Cheryl Blossom... Of course, each hexagon recreates that binary (or quarternary, or hexagenary) decision tree. The fractal offers a truly stunning number of pathways between Theya and Rausa even as they all come together in the singularity points.
  4. Player characters are by default 21 years old and have been adults participating in historical events for 3-5 years. Presumably, they've sacrificed for Rune magic twice more after joining their cult in that interval.
  5. Who's to say that people aren't engaging with the playful Bless Pregnancy button? Why else do you think player characters trend so tall?
  6. The secret technique: deal yourself the unhealable wound, becoming "The Arkat With The Dolorous Papercut" etc., distinct from the other Arkat facing you, shortcircuiting that process of recognition. This may, of course, catapult you randomly through the Godtime. Results not guaranteed. (The classic Firesign Theater album, "I think we're all Arkats on this bus"...)
  7. Umathela is underexplored in public-facing materials (and thus probably equally so in private notes or unfinished manuscripts), but there's quite a lot of complexity there- Orlanthi transplants synchronizing with the locals and promoting a 9-god Lightbringer cult, Sedalpists, the Gift Carriers of the Sending Gods, all those Aldryami, and of course we have Silence and Ompalam and Pujaleg and Artmal and Pamalt and Vadeli all poking their heads in. So it's like much of Glorantha in that regard- room for fractal complexity. With that in mind, in Pamaltela the Doraddi peoples consider the motion of the Sky Dome to be a positive thing, so here we may have an antipodean Sun that proves more dynamic. And in this sense, the Halamalao form may be more static as a counterbalance.
  8. The Elmal of Sartar is interesting because a fusion of Hot and Cold Suns (the Katy Perry Sun) is something most people seem to have believed in at the Dawn. But a general separation happened at some point as people began to compare notes and experiment and so on. So why does Elmal, this throwback cult, exist in the Modern Age? Well. We know that there are some divinities, like Ogorvale Summer, so draconified by EWF worship forms that they were simply forgotten and suppressed rather than cleansed of draconic influence. We know there was a Dragon Sun cult the EWF promoted, and which the Dara Happan emperors struggled to cut out of their myths after the Dragonkill. We know there's a draconic Yelmalio, also suppressed in the Prax Sun County. So perhaps Elmal worship emerged from the need to cut away all possible EWF influence, or indeed due to the holes in the post-EWF cults (from Minarian Memory Removal or similar) the Big Sun and Little Sun collapsed together. But only where EWF held sway and where there wasn't a surviving Yelmalio/Tharkantus cult to separate the deities. So Maniria and Ralios and Fronela and Umathela, never under EWF influence, never had to cut out the Sun's arangorf and so maintained a consistent but diverging set of cults, until the Revelation of the Many Suns began the process of stitching these separated cults together again...
  9. I don't think you need a specific myth of "How Chalana Arroy's Apprentice Experimented With Breatharianism". You have primal myths about the necessity of eating, if you need something more rhetorically sophisticated you have the Grower/Maker/Eater mythos to explain that plants are physical expressions of the concept of "raw materials" and therefore meant to be eaten, you have seed-related myths of regeneration which don't apply to animals but do to plants... it's all pretty easy to put together.
  10. I rather suspect that if an educated Kralori fellow went on a visit to the Block, they would probably conclude that this was where Vayobi defeated Sekever and could also point to various proofs of this fact in and around the Block.
  11. Perhaps this denotes a metafictional sating of her appetite, going from feasting on the diabolical buffet to contenting herself with one or the other. At some point she may end up only needing a snack.
  12. Just possibly they saw art of Orlanth and Ernalda being intimate, or rather, saw an unruly masculine figure with a thunderbolt and a goddess with a prominent addi putting it to use on said figure. And then they put two and two together and got fourteen.
  13. The Curse of Kin was unintentional. Kyger Litor swallowing Nysalor and Nysalor bursting out of her made Nysalor her child. As such, her children in turn give birth to Nysalor-like children, the enlo. Because Nysalor was divided, multiple births are usually enlo. Because Nysalor's rebirth was traumatic and painful and because he's a being of Light, uz pregnancies are difficult and enlo are frequently born with disabilities from physical incompatibility between mother and children on an elemental level. And with Nysalor shattered and dismembered, there's no chance of reconciliation because Nysalor can't be invoked to allow for safe births of enlo/N-lor Uz. EDIT: Alternately, reassembling Nysalor and then making him get unbirthed and rebirthed by Kyger Litor in a less traumatic way would also work, and may be easier than talking it out.
  14. Eff

    On Redeemed Broo

    I've always read the Wild Healer as Illuminated enough to not be tormented by Thed for daring to escape mommy's dictates, but still mutated and visibly Chaotic. Which I think is probably a straightforward way to read broo who don't behave like the cannon fodder bestial monsters they're divinely abused into being- they've become enlightened enough to escape that cycle of violence in some fashion.
  15. A mildly interesting question is whether Chalana Arroy cultists are lacto-ovo vegetarians and may consume animal products that don't require the death of an animal. Which makes the cult a bit more practical in pastoral societies. I suppose that's how I'd run it if it came up.
  16. And breaking the Compromise isn't something gods seem able to do on their own, with one potential exception. The Osentalka project temporarily stops the Sun in the sky, probably because the Uz and most Orlanthi left and so it was only people who believed the Perfect Sky was one that was still and in Stasis. But that's not something any deity willed, it's the result of how the Perfect One was designed and created. And so on with Night and Day, with Palangio summoning Daysenerus rather than Daysenerus acting through him. Nysalor does act at Night and Day, but he claimed not to be a god and he only acts after the Compromise is broken. The one apparent exception is the Red Goddess at the opening of the Battle of Castle Blue, but she was substantially mortal in any case. And there, the suspension of the Compromise sees an amendment made which allows for the Red Moon to exist and hang in the Middle Air. (And after Moonfall, it's still there, but it's invisible.)
  17. Well, the formation of the Black Eater also broke the Compromise. So what shattered the compromise was that Kyger Litor and Yelmalio-Daysenerus acted in ways that they weren't supposed to be able to- there was no mythological event where Kyger Litor and Yelmalio fought. For a moment, the split between God Time and mortal Time was no longer present and the gods were able to act unconstrained by the rules of the natural world. Which is why the Curse of Kin is so potent- everyone was acting in a mode where they were potentially creating new natural laws, and one law that shook out of that is the Curse of Kin, or what manifests as the Curse of Kin. And so there's a straightforward "materialistic" explanation for why Chaos enters the world without the Compromise- without the Compromise (as a new Spike/Axis Mundi/Law Rune), the world is in flux and new things can enter into it freely, and all new things are created from the Void of Chaos. Physics is temporarily suspended in flavor of a higher, less constraining metaphysics.
  18. My interpretation of the Chaos/undead exemption is that it's intended to make it clear that you're not expected to speak up in favor of a peaceful settlement with the Queendom of Jab or with the Daughter of Darkness who's Carmilla-ing some innocent naif as a Chalana Arroy cultist, that your pacifism is meant to be a thoughtful philosophical position like ahimsa and not a cartoonish exaggeration of such. Of course, that's metatext.
  19. And on the symbolic level, the stories are interchangeable- the gods compromise, and the world pulls that which is from outside- entropy, immorality for its own sake, motiveless malignity- into herself, devours it completely, and transforms it into an essential part of the universe. Unbirth and rebirth. It's a statement of how the world ought to function- the new and frightening things are incorporated in, changing themselves and changing the world in the process. The world does not function in this fashion all the time, so the Devil comes back again and again. Every 600 years or so, perhaps.
  20. Another Y-sun: Yonesh. Of course, like Little Yelm, Yonesh is plainly a slightly shifted Elmal in the visuals (and Shargash is a significantly shifted one.) But this Cold Sun seems like a bit of a black box linguistically, or paralinguistically. There's that Yu prefix, but beyond that signifier, I'm not sure whether he has any other connections, beyond the obvious one of being the Other that Y/Elmal/io must reconcile with to achieve true immortality.
  21. And if we want an in-universe textual game, Dara Happan Y is a combined Law and Fire Rune. Which certainly suggests the Yu-prefix. But when the Dara Happans talk about their deep lore of the Sun, they use names like Ezelvetay, Antirius, Zaytenera/s etc. which are not part of the ELM phonon. And of course we have a tradition of interpreting the ReAscent as a first ascent- that originally this was Arraz to Murharzarm. That Z keeps cropping up. It's even loosely in "Shargash", and directly in "Shadzor". And Z is Truth and Light combined. This doesn't seem to get us anywhere, but it's clear there are a couple solar strata here, even if we can't be sure what the earliest are. The Riders of Six Ages call their god Elmal and remember Reladivus as a distinct, different entity- but we know they're both lightfores of Nivorah. I have had my suspicions about Malkioni arriving in Pelanda very early on. It's possible ELM arrives with them.
  22. So there are three basic approaches we can take to this question of knowledge. I'll start with what I'll call a modernist perspective. We can imagine that most people in Glorantha have the same kind of knowledge someone in our world before mass literacy and dedicated historiography would have of the past. Which is to say, Arkat and Harmast were 11-1200 years ago. So knowledge of them would be like someone in the days of Julius Caesar or Octavian Caesar and their knowledge of the Trojan War. And the EWF and God Learners were about 600 years ago. So we're looking at that same person in the days of Julius Caesar and their knowledge of the Greco-Persian wars and the founding of the Achaemenids and the poetry of Sappho. And the rising of the Red Moon was four hundred years ago. So we're looking at the Pelopponesian War and knowledge of the Thirty Tyrants of Athens. Which is to say, people in that time knew of the analogies I am drawing. But in this framework, they knew events and stories and didn't have much context about the material or social characteristics of the time, and much of what they knew was false or spurious. So in this approach, people would have little "real" knowledge of Arkat or the Middle Sea Empire, but would know the basic stories and interpret them and add other stories in to use the stories to express their contemporary concerns and beliefs. I call this the modernist perspective because it treats Glorantha as a naturalistic/materialistic cosmos where people behave like they do in our world not just in outward social behaviors but also in embedded social behaviors like historical awareness. Another perspective is what I call the premodernist one. In this approach, knowledge is transmitted accurately. It might be lost, but it can be found. There are demigods and immortals and long-lived people and spirits and gods of secret knowledge, and there are truths and falsehoods in the Otherside. So while you might have limits in your knowledge, the basic truth can be transmitted and is preserved even against failures of mortal memory. So when people talk about Arkat, they are limited in their knowledge because their connection to Arkat has been disrupted magically, and this is unusual. The third approach is what I call the postmodernist one. The gods are pluralistic entities. People can wildly misunderstand the nature of the universe for hundreds of years. False proofs can be made, and the truth does not out on its own. It is possible to learn things about the universe, but there are so many conditionals and underlying theory-laden aspects and exceptions that surety is a rare thing indeed, and those who go without doubt go unarmored and with their scabbard empty. And in all that mess, what was "actually" so is far less important than how it is understood now and by whom. Between all of these three, you must mix them together in proportion to what you want to do in and with Glorantha. Do you want to dig out old lore and discover forgotten secrets sandals on feet and sword in hand? Do you want to tease these things out through great intellectual effort? Do you want to embrace deliberate anachronism and small-c chaos?
  23. Given that Argan is also associated with enlo, and the uzuz is the "Mistress Race"/litoric body, perhaps the Curse of Kin was less a transformation than a revelation... Which may play into Kitori (kitori) and Ezkankekko (no gender postposition there) and other such intermediates between Dark and other peoples.
  24. Yes. But in the RQG rules, a greatsword is a pure slashing weapon, unlike the other straight swords, which are all cut-and-thrust, so by default you're not using the thing for halfswording or poking people. I'm not sure if this is an oversight or a particular vision I'm just not getting.
  25. "Just on the border of your waking mind, there lies another time. Where darkness and light are one. And as you tread the halls of sanity, you feel so glad to be- unable to go beyond. I have a message from another time."
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