Dirk Le Daring

G'day all,

                I have been investigating the Bits and Mortar program, as it is a new thing to me.

I have made a few purchases through Milsims Games, Melbourne, Australia. I have found their listing on the Bits and Mortar website. However, I am unable to figure out how this thing works. I have no idea where to ask this, so please do not feed me to the Bat 😐. I do have invoices ready to go, but am at a loss as what to do now, or where to look.

I am also unsure if the retailer was part of the Bits and Mortar program before I purchased my Runequest stuff from them.

Any pointers would be fantastic, 

                                                      Thanks in advance, Dirk.

1 hour ago, Squaredeal Sten said:

Red Book of magic p.101 -  I see your problem!  

Caster's POW vs. each undead target's Magic Points, on the resistance table.  If you succeed, the undead is affected, and the problem now arises: the undead results table is written in terms of single-actor success, from fumble to critical, which the resistance table does not have.  It doesn't make sense to use the result level from your casting of the spell, although it would give fumble/failure/success.special. critical results - because the Fumble and Failure results should never come up if you fail to cast the spell.

But the book says 'if successful roll on' the table- so for each affected undead being,  I would use a new roll on the Death rune affinity %, and use that to read the table.

Example:

You face two undead, who we will call A and B.   You cast 2 Rune points of Turn Undead.

Let's say your character has Death 70%.  You roll a 67% and make it, the spell affects your undead targets.

Now for each undead, you roll your character's POW vs. its MPs.  Say 15 POW vs.  16 MPs- so a 45% chance of success.  You roll a 40 and a 25 and win twice, your undead targets are both affected.

Now roll for the effect vs. your character's  67% Death rune. 

For  undead "A" you roll a 70, failure.  Reading the table, that undead is merely befuddled, not "turned".  (If it has no INT then just as for Befuddle, you can't befuddle something with no INT, this becomes a bad result for you.)

For undead "B", you roll a 06, special:  Reading the table this undead is paralyzed and immobile for a number of melee rounds depending on its INT, if any. 

You quietly leave before the two undead become functional again.

 

Page 9, last paragraph, first sentence......

" The chariot and skeletons are one being, one spirit, bound
by Rune magic and bronze chains."

By the spell description Turn Undead will work, given success on casting.

As for Pow or MP vs Pow , yeah, dunno.... It has no Pow or Cha.

@MrHemlocks If you want to get the basics sorted maybe try the free online solo adventure. You do not need a physical copy of the Starter Set, but it should give you a good idea of the game mechanics (Two thumbs up in my book), and a taste of the setting. You can make your own setting though.......

I'll put a link to the thread with the solo adventure.......

Just saw the announcement on FB about hard copy release at GenCon. Does this mean that all warehouses have stock ?

Thanks for the replies.

Curious about this, anyone got any ideas ?

https://www.facebook.com/ChaosiumInc/photos/a.292618194231516/2234346826725300/

I have had this same question in my head too.

And another.....

Does taking the head off the spear shaft, and fixing it to a lance shaft break the enchantment ?

Essentially spear and lance heads are the "same".

@Jeff Thank you kind sir, for your clarification. It is always a good thing to get it from the Hippogriffs's Beak. 😉 

I do like the strict doctrine....

Also to everyone else who has replied (Too many to quote, but you know who you are 😉 ), and thus contributed to this discussion... Thank you all so much, this is great, and it is fantastic to see so many different opinions expressed in a civil manner. 

Such an awesome community. 

Do not stop, I am quite enjoying this discussion. Have learned a lot, and should I ever play a Chalana Arroy, will use all of your input for reference.

Thank you again everyone.  (Awesomeness) 

Reading the Sourcebook, I found Chalana Arroy to be quite interesting in a few respects. And possibly quite an interesting thing to play a member of the cult......

The entry for Chalana Arroy on page 117 of the Sourcebook provides quite explicit taboos with regard to life and living things, Chaos excepted....

First question....

While Chalana Arroy is listed among the Deities of Air, there is no reference in the image of the Genealogy of the primary Air deities on page 107. (I did check the PDF this time to no avail)

I am wondering if this is an error or is it that she was left off because she is the daughter of Glorantha, and thus has no lineage as such. This is just a curiosity.....

In the Sourcebook, page 117, it states "Worshipers of Chalana Arroy practice total non-violence and take an oath never to harm a living creature". I'll assume that accidents happen and the ant that was not seen and was unknowingly stepped on is down to fate.

How would this be played ? I have ideas, but am curious as to the intent.

In the core rulebook it states, on page 290... "An initiate must take an oath never to harm an intelligent creature or needlessly cause pain to any living thing."

There seems to be, from a certain perspective, quite a difference between the two books.... Which is it to be ?

Also, was the decision of Chalana Arroy to cease being passive the reason that she became able to cure disease, and heal wounds ? I would assume that is the reason, but.... Curiosity. I am thinking the passive nature that Arroin urged her to mantain was that of not interfering in any way with the world (Not violence / non-violence), thus taking action gave her the position of primary healer ?????

I may not have worded this particularly well, but it will have to do for now.....

Thanks for any insights, and your take on this curious cult and Goddess.

Thank you Scotty, Oracle and Jajagappa. 

Cannot seem to reply with quotes or tags, just keeps saying "saving" in the bottom left..... Er... right

Thank you Andrew for the replies. Have the atlas and found the location.

The physical book Scotty, not keen on electronic publications.... 

Finished reading the book. Good read. Probably less enthused about the Lunar Empire now 😉 (Never intended to play a Lunar anyway, but, things can change....) They are a strange bunch, and, well, chaos......

Two , make that three questions.....

Page 181, last paragraph, last sentence.... And I will quote....

They accepted luxurious gifts and Lunar wives, who entered the cults of their land and taught some Lunar magic to a

That's it... Next page starts with a new paragraph.

Page 185, last paragraph... Will quote....

In 7/18 (1589) Procottus the Sailor took his first three Moon Boats over the empty, foggy wastes of Fronela and landed secretly among one of the Arrolian city-states there

That's for that one. Could be lack of punctuation, but I get the feeling something is missing....

Bonus question (Not about missing text)....

Where in Balazar is Gonn Orta ???Sounds like a very cool giant, that would be great to meet. (Page 208)
 

51 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said:

Some very good sculpting there! Amazing skill.

 

But disappointingly Euro-centric from only the last couple of thousand years 😞

Euro-centric..... What other culture has produced such fine sculptures ? And I'm not trying to be (insert anything you like here) Seriously though, show me an image of anything as beautiful in marble (which I do like the most) by anyone other than the Greeks or Romans. I'm willing to look and admire, but I have no knowledge of anything as realistic from anyone else. Sure, the Chinese and Japanese produced some great work, but is it as realistic ? As fine and true to form. I am not trying to take away from other works from those of other cultures, but credit where credit is due.

I especially love the veils, blows my mind that that can be depicted so well in stone....

I'm not one to usually get into a discussion like this, but......

The artwork is fantastic. There is no smut. It very much captures the "ancient" feel that the game is set in.

Get over it. This is not D&D. (And you may rail against me for this, and I do not care, but I object to the whole six gender thing that panders to the wokeness pervading our culture today). I play these games to escape that shit, but can ignore it and say "that is not MY Glorantha" too easy. Maybe you should do the same.

I'll link a bonus for you and all who visit this thread, some of the finest sculptures ever created by the hand of man, and many from the ancient world....... There is nothing sexual about them, it is about capturing the human form, and doing so as accurately as possible. This is art at it's finest.... ( I hope the link works, if not will attempt to edit)

No Words - A Journey Through Sculptural Mastery Across the Ages - YouTube

@Psullie  @Nick Brooke  @Sid Vicarious

Thank you very much fellas. Will see how I go. Awesome.....

G'day all.

I am making this thread to ask about reliable sources for Runequest material in Australia. Specifically RQRIG. I understand that Chaosium has a warehouse here in Oz (awesome), however there must be retailers that are for want of a better word "regulars".

Here is why I ask... I have the RQRIG slipcase set (fantastic), the Guide to Glorantha (fantastic), the Quickstart and the second edition reprint in hardcover (nostalgia). Usually I will buy from a company in Melbourne, Milsims (which I did for the mentioned titles), who I have found to be excellent over the years. My concern is this, they do not have The Red Book of Magic listed for pre-order. This is no complaint about Milsims in any way, so by now I would have expected to see it listed for pre-order by now for said title, considering it is on the way to warehouses. Also I have no idea how Chaosium markets in Australia or what outlets are preferred. If that is even a thing. 

This is probably the most important question for me..... If I order from Chaosium, does the item ship from the Australian warehouse ? Or does it ship from somewhere else with potentially horrendous postage costs ? This is the key for me. I wish to support local business, but if they will not get the stock, I'll have to go elsewhere..... 

Are there any Aussies on here that can help me out with this please????? 

Have a good one all.

Looks like I have discord sorted. Let me know when/if/how to set up and get the ruffles smoothed. (I have never used discord)

15 hours ago, Arcadiagt5 said:

Hi Dirk, webcam not needed but a decent audio setup via Discord is. We've had technical difficulties with video on Roll20 for this game and have settled on voice only in Discord. Maps, character sheets, dice rolls, etc are in Roll20. 

I would walk you through character generation, and of the other players at least @Nano_Ranger would help out. We would certainly discuss what role you wanted to play in the party, and how that can be fitted into the story.

Cheers mate, I have discord installed, and have an account for roll 20, just having a bitch of a time accessing my emails to verify the discord account (should also test audio before locking me in). Fantasising about feeding the provider to the Crimson Bat..... ;) Will continue to try this evening and will let you know how I go no later than Saturday evening so you can get another.

2 hours ago, Nano_Ranger said:

I would be very glad to help if you decide to join us

Cheers for the offer, I just hope I can get discord working, and would be happy for any help from you.

I would be interested, though I have not played in decades, do not know Roll20 (I do have an account), and have enjoyed the White Bull campaign... I have no webcam, let me know what I need besides beer, and I'll see what I can do, but do not pin hopes on me. ( I do like the idea of finally getting to play, if I can). How soon do you plan to start  ? (time to get and set up a cam if needed) Also character generation could be an issue, unless I get help..... Feel free to dismiss this at a glance though.

EDIT: OOPS, underway, ok, I could join, but do not know if I would be of use in time. Up to you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXU291OmYY

Two points, 1 the youtube link ends at about 1 hour 4 minutes..... No further film, 2 I had to use my search skill, looked behind the fridge, under the lounge and even in the bin ;)  and found the remainder (whole session) by clicking on Mr Skorkowskis' twitter link and discovered a link to the twitch channel. May I suggest linking the twitch  feed in the op ?

A good watch, enjoyed it a lot. I have not played in over 30 years, so was a good way to relive the game. I hope you do in fact finish this adventure. I look forward to the next session, may the gods be with you all.

9 minutes ago, Jeff said:

Winged horses are a thing in Glorantha, although the ancient form was Hippogriff. I tend to use Hippogriff and Pegasus interchangeably as a term for the Ancient Winged Horse, since we know Hippoi was originally a beaked, clawed, and winged goddess, who had her wings, claws, and beak taken away by cruel gods.

Thank you very much, I will do so.

9 minutes ago, Sumath said:

I'd just repurpose the hippogriff or griffin statistics, but without the bite or claw attacks obviously. I'd say they are definitely Sky Rune creatures.

Not having the bestiary in front of me, I can't remember what attacks a hippogriff has, but you could use a horse's attacks. I'd also say that Pegasi are probably intelligent in the same way griffins are, and may have spirit magic.

Edit: ah, Jeff beat me to it.

Thank you, all good ideas / information.

9 minutes ago, metcalph said:

Statistics: Use the Galana Horse Bestiary  p147 (I doubt that a flying animal will be able to carry a man on horseback).

Hit location: use the Sky Bull page 124.

Movement:  I think a 12.  

Dunno if they exist for sure but you never know

Thank you, again good ideas. They will exist in MY Glorantha, that seems to me to be the best part.

Thanks again for the replies fellas.

I have a humble request of the community, as I am not great with converting anything.

I have noticed, to my dismay that there is no entry, reference, or mention of the noble Pegasus anywhere in the Runequest rules or the Bestiary. I may have missed something, but looked at the second edition (my starting point), and no mention there either. Does anyone know if this is intentional, or an oversight ?

Regardless, I would like to request advice on how to "make one", so that I may be able to utilise such a noble beast if and when I get to running a game. I have little idea as to what statistics would be appropriate, but think that maybe a warhorse would be a good base. Maybe, maybe a lighter horse. As for flying, I have absolutely no idea.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.

(Also, seems odd that an expansion "Pegasus Plateau" would be a thing if there is no such creature in the game)

8 hours ago, Crel said:

For what it's worth, all of Glorantha is visible in the illustration/"map" on page 16 of the core rulebook, which is in the slipcase set .

I noticed that. It's a very good illustration of the world structure, but not much as a map. I do quite like it.

8 hours ago, 7Tigers said:

And if maps are needed, you can check Glorantha map (1.5 Mo) and Genertela map (14,5 Mo) on good old
https://www.glorantha.com/docs/map-of-glorantha/

Very good maps indeed, thank you for the link. Would be fantastic to be able to get them on paper or, better still cloth/canvas.... Genertela at 1 metre by 2 metres, and Glorantha at 1 Metre by 1 metre would be epic.

7 hours ago, lordabdul said:

Are you talking about the product description on the Chaosium website?

Additional materials include a 20-page reference booklet full of charts and references for ease of play, a 16-page full-color Gloranthan calendar, seven ready-to-play pregenerated adventurer characters, regular and deluxe adventurer sheets, squad and a non-player character sheets, as well as full-color fold-out maps of Apple Lane, Clearwine, Dragon Pass, and the world of Glorantha itself.

If so, then yeah, sadly, those last few words are not correct, there's no map of Glorantha as a whole in the slipcase set as far as I can tell. Even the Glorantha Sourcebook only has a few maps that cover Genertela, with most maps focusing on Dragon Pass and its surroundings (although it has a few God Time maps based on God Learner documents, which show you the entirety of Glorantha at various points in non-time before it took on the shape we know now). For maps of the entirety of Glorantha you'd have to look at the Guide To Glorantha and the (controversial) Argan Argrar Atlas.

I was referring to what is actually printed on the slipcase, and on the gamemasters pack that came with it. That being the most important, as it is essentially "as advertised", however, the website was also where I first read it was included. I have the Guide to Glorantha on order though. However it would have been nice to have the map I had hoped for, as it would be great on the wall. Thanks for the reply and info though.