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    Creative Director, Chaosium Inc.
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    HeroQuest, RuneQuest. Call of Cthulhu, 13th Age, Pendragon
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  1. Deities of Beer and Wine

    Or more precisely the natural processes are the result of the events of the God Time. The sun sets every day because the Sun God was killed in the God Time. It rises, because the God Time ended with the Dawn and the return of the Sun. The God Learners tried to systematize this to great extent, in order to understand, predict, and control "natural processes".
  2. Raiders of R'lyeh!

    Issaries ok'ed Mongoose issuing a sub-license (which is all the OGL is), but once the license with Issaries was terminated, all the sub-licenses went away (the parent license was not amended to permit survival of sub-licenses). I suspect the perpetual clause is just a drafting error and should be read as "perpetual as long as the parent license endures." And no, sub-licenses do not survive the termination of the parent license.
  3. Raiders of R'lyeh!

    Yes, the MRQ SRD expired upon the termination of Mongoose's rights to RuneQuest. You can't license things that you don't have the rights to in the first place. The OGL may have stated that it was "perpetual", but since Mongoose never had perpetual rights to RQ, the OGL was not perpetual and that OGL expired when their license did. Mongoose then created Legend. Presuming that Mongoose properly owns Legend (and assuming that it is not an unlicensed derivative of RQ2/3/BGP for now), then Mongoose has the rights to create an OGL for Legend. But all the MRQ SRDs expired with the underlying license. Properly speaking R'lyeh should not be saying it is based on RuneQuest (since that would infringe upon copyright and trademark) but that it is based on Legend.
  4. Deities of Beer and Wine

    OK, that I agree with. For those unfamiliar with it, here's the Hymn to Ninkasi: 1-4Given birth by the flowing water ......, tenderly cared for by Ninhursaja! Ninkasi, given birth by the flowing water ......, tenderly cared for by Ninhursaja! 5-8Having founded your town upon wax, she completed its great walls for you. Ninkasi, having founded your town upon wax, she completed its great walls for you. 9-12Your father is Enki, the lord Nudimmud, and your mother is Ninti, the queen of the abzu. Ninkasi, your father is Enki, the lord Nudimmud, and your mother is Ninti, the queen of the abzu. 13-16It is you who handle the ...... and dough with a big shovel, mixing, in a pit, the beerbread with sweet aromatics. Ninkasi, it is you who handle the ...... and dough with a big shovel, mixing, in a pit, the beerbread with sweet aromatics. 17-20It is you who bake the beerbread in the big oven, and put in order the piles of hulled grain. Ninkasi, it is you who bake the beerbread in the big oven, and put in order the piles of hulled grain. 21-24It is you who water the earth-covered malt; the noble dogs guard it even from the potentates (?). Ninkasi, it is you who water the earth-covered malt; the noble dogs guard it even from the potentates (?). 25-28It is you who soak the malt in a jar; the waves rise, the waves fall. Ninkasi, it is you who soak the malt in a jar; the waves rise, the waves fall. 29-32It is you who spread the cooked mash on large reed mats; coolness overcomes ....... Ninkasi, it is you who spread the cooked mash on large reed mats; coolness overcomes ....... 33-36It is you who hold with both hands the great sweetwort, brewing it with honey and wine. Ninkasi, it is you who hold with both hands the great sweetwort, brewing it with honey and wine. 37-401 line damaged You ...... the sweetwort to the vessel. Ninkasi, ....... You ...... the sweetwort to the vessel. 41-44You place the fermenting vat, which makes a pleasant sound, appropriately on top of a large collector vat. Ninkasi, you place the fermenting vat, which makes a pleasant sound, appropriately on top of a large collector vat. 45-48It is you who pour out the filtered beer of the collector vat; it is like the onrush of the Tigris and the Euphrates. Ninkasi, it is you who pour out the filtered beer of the collector vat; it is like the onrush of the Tigris and the Euphrates. ------- I can certainly imagine something similar as a praise to Minlister or to Keranna and Vuranna. Note that this is a procedural explanation:- "How is beer made? By doing the following things...." You do those things, and VOILA! you have beer or wine or whatever. So while making beer, a farmer would sing songs to Minlister, which might also contain the steps for making beer. Similarly, to make wine, farmers would sing to Keranna and Vuranna (or even Ernalda and Flamal) as they harvest the grapes, again as they flatten the grapes, and each day that the women stomp on the grapes. But when the chief gives out wine by the jug, we all hopefully offer propitiary songs to Eurmal that he not strike us mad with intoxication! Or perhaps we remind Eurmal of when intoxication is useful and maybe we sing of when Eurmal got Orlanth intoxicated so that he could understand that what Ernalda was offering him was better than violence (probably a pretty ribald song of intoxication and sex), thereby calling upon Illusion and Disorder to lead us to Harmony and Life.
  5. Deities of Beer and Wine

    One thing I want to warn folk away from is treating myth as euhemerised science. The sacred stories of Dionysus is not the story of how to make wine - it is what wine does, the divine madness it brings. Most Gloranthans know that wine brings both community and disorder, inspiration and madness. So although Keranna and Vuranna are the goddesses of the grapes, one might also invoke Ernalda for the sense of community and fellowship that wine-drinking brings; but one should also be aware that Eurmal is always present when wine is consumed, and that community and fellowship might quickly become conflict and violence. We know that there are tales of Babeester Gor getting drunk, but I am sure there are plenty of stories of Orlanth that most civilized of storm gods also over-consuming his wife's gifts and, with Eurmal's aid, drunkenly burning down forests, striking down those who were not his foes, flattening fields with rain and hail, and rampaging like a wild bull.
  6. RuneQuest Glorantha Gen Con 50 Preview edition

    Having recently played Stormbringer and Ringworld, I assure you the differences between those systems are about as close or far as between RQG and CoC7th Edition. Ringworld doubled hit points, introduced an impulse system, a radically different root and branch skill system, etc. Stormbringer had random armor points, etc. All clearly are related systems, but there was no effort to have as common a set of rules as possible.
  7. Deities of Beer and Wine

    That's them! Yes, Keranna and Vuranna are the daughters of the vine. They are the goddesses and grapes, worshiped as part of the Ernalda cult. Intoxication though is usually the province of Eurmal, both for good or for ill.
  8. Deities of Beer and Wine

    Ernalda and Flamal are the deities of wine in Sartar. I can't recall the name of their daughter who is technically the goddess of wine. Eurmal is generally recognized as the god of intoxication itself..
  9. Raiders of R'lyeh!

    Which shows how very long ago this was initially put together, since the MRQ SRD expired upon the termination of the Mongoose RQ license back in 2011 or so. Properly speaking it should be under the Legend SRD.
  10. RuneQuest Glorantha Gen Con 50 Preview edition

    I don't see CoC7e as being forward or backward - merely a different direction in order to model a different genre and setting. Same thing with RQG - we went with RQ as the base, included the fixes to broken parts of RQ2 that were included in RQ3 (but without the broken rules RQ3 included), and then went on from there. What we did not include is any of the Mongoose-era rules (or Oliver's RQIV:AiG). RQ models a different genre and different activities than CoC7e does. We see no value trying to make RQ=CoC or vice versa. That they share common DNA is obvious, but CoC players coming to RuneQuest will have a more robust combat, personality, and magic systems, while RQ players coming to Cthulhu will have a lighter combat and magic system (plus a sanity mechanic) In both cases, it will require learning some new rules and unlearning some old rules. And that's just fine. I doubt people will have trouble recognizing that when they play bronze age warrior-priests who fight trolls, steal cattle, and interact with gods and spirits that they need to have a somewhat different rules set from a game where they play 1920s era investigators who search through secret collections in libraries, deal with police and bureaucracies, and go insane upon seeng the equivalent of trolls, spirits, or gods. Jeff
  11. Stats for NPCS: Starbrow, Fazzur, Argrath, etc

    You can't find stats for Starbrow, Argrath, or Beti (although I do have Beti's character sheet), at least until RQG comes out. Currently Queen Leika is in one of the GM Pack scenarios, although she might wait until the GM book (along with Redbird and a few others like Asborn Thriceborn).
  12. RuneQuest Glorantha Gen Con 50 Preview edition

    Yes it was dropped. Frankly it mainly added an extra chart for special circumstances. It was something often forgotten by GM's and not embraced by many players. Worse yet, it's "higher realism" is pretty questionable. So we dropped it.
  13. What has happened to Hargan the Dirty

    Hargran the Dirty is dead. Killed when Argrath takes the New Pavis and the Big Rubble in 1625. The Pavis Royal Guard are reformed and given Zebra Fort.
  14. Those were two terrible demons who threatened the cosmos itself. Siglat had every right to mark that triumph.
  15. RuneQuest Glorantha Gen Con 50 Preview edition

    Actually, it does appear that most people do play games as written. Houserulers and tinkerers are actually a rather distinct minority of all players. I'm an inveterate houseruler, but I've long ago learned that is a minority playstyle. Just one that is very overrepresented in forums.
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