Gregory M Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 For the purposes of my campaign in Pamaltela, I need to list all the deities from the Fonrit and Doraddi pantheons mentioned in The Prosopaedia. The book clarifies and specifies many things without having to dive into the complexities of Revealed Mythologies. It's a great book! 😍 I'll be posting a little summary document about it soon. For now, I have a few questions. Let me make it clear from the outset that these are questions about really minor details. This is nitpicking, due to the fact that I'm trying to be really clear about Pamaltela. 😅 First, two questions about the "Glorious Ones". In Fonrit, Garangordos created an imitation of Pamalt's Necklace, the "Glorious Ones" (The Prosopaedia p. 47), where each of Garangordos' "companions" became a deity symbolizing one of the Ancient Gods of Pamalt's pantheon. Hence my Question 1: The Prosopaedia does not specify which of the Old Gods is symbolized by Alakhainas (p. 4). Is it, instead of Ganleiriti (not mentioned in the book), Sikkanos, as suggested by Revealed Mythologies p. 55? ("Only Ganleiriti refused to take part, saying he did not want to be part of this new civilized life. He departed with his family to go south and seek the forefathers of the people. In his place, Garangordos named his brother, Alakhainas. Afterwards, all agreed that Ganleiriti was Sikkanos.") Or does Alakheinas symbolize another Old God? And Question 2: Malubadu is presented, in The Prosopaedia, as the Fonrit deity who symbolizes "Silver". Typo? Revealed Mythologies is about "Siver" (pp. 55, 61 and 65), one of Pamaltela's Old Gods, a healer god. Question 3: I find it strange that Miroune (p. 86), who was identified with Babeester Gor by the God Learners in Revealed Mythologies, belongs to the Fonrit pantheon and not to the Doraddi one. Typo? Question 4: I discover the existence of Sedaia, "the Queen of Kothar" (p. 108): "goddess of langiappe, a pseudocereal grown in the oases of Kothar". The oases of Kothar? In Jolar, I can understand, but it didn't seem to me that oases in Kothar were a notable feature of the region. Guide to Glorantha p. 590: "[Kothar is] A wide verdant plain, cut by clear rivers and covered with teeming herds. The natives consider it to be paradise. It is well-watered, and oasis centers do not exist here. Much of Kothar is savannah, covered with widely spaced, scattered trees." So, oases or not in Kothar? Finally, Question 5 (high level nitpicking, you've been warned): in The Prosopaedia, "Hykim and Mikyh" p. 60 doesn't belong to pamaltelan pantheons, but "Mikyh" (alone, p. 85) belongs to the Doraddi panheon. Does this (apparent) contradiction mean anything? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory M Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) For those who might be interested, here are the deities listed in The Prosopaedia who belong to either the Doraddi or the Fonritian pantheon. Underlined names correspond to deities related to Artmal and the Veldang (information of importance to my campaign). The name of some deities is followed by another name in brackets : it is the equivalent deity in another pantheon according to the Godlearners. In the Fonritian pantheon, an asterisk indicates the "Glorious Ones", i.e. the "new gods" that Garangordos wanted to symbolize, or manifest, the ancient deities of the Doraddi pantheon. I have a few hesitations, in italics, which correspond to the questions I asked in my first message (see above). Doraddi pantheon Afidisi Agi Aleshmara (Asrelia) Amuron Aranea Artmal Balumbasta (Lodril) Baraku (Orlanth) Basmol Bolongo Bredjeg (Umath) Chermata (Lokarnos / Issaries) Cronisper Dama Enjata Mo Famorde (Maran Gor) Faranar (Ernalda) Hon Hoolbiktu Horned Man Jarkaru the Indigo Conqueror Jmijie Kendamalar Keraun Langamul Mikyh Miroune ? (Babeester Gor) Mwara Nomiama Noruma Nyanka Old Gods Pamalt Plant Brothers Qualyorni (Moorgarki) Rasout Sedaia Serartamal Sikkanos (Siver ?) Tadarida (Ty Kora Tek) Tamakderu Vangono Varama Veldara Yanmorla Fonrit Abalibost* (Rasout) Abdamedric* (Vangono) Aininlahay* (Yanmorla) Alakhainas* (Sikkanos ?) Artmal Baraku (Orlanth) Bendaluza* (Cronisper) Bredjeg (Umath) Chermata (Lokarnos / Issaries) Chouanaibos* (Jmijie) Darleester the Noose Echeklihos* (Nyanka) El Jazuli* (Aleshmara) Enjata Mo Ernamola Famorde (Maran Gor) Galaborib* (Enjata Mo) Garangordos* (Pamalt) Gark the Calm Hungry Goddess Ikadz Jarkaru the Indigo Conqueror Jokotu* (Bolongo) Jraktal the Tap Lallamimou* (Keraun) Lamsabi Lohanasen* (Tamakderu) Malubadu* (Siver ?) Mandakusour* (Noruma) Miroune (Babeester Gor) Mouladehas* (Balumbasta) Mwara Old Gods Ompalam Pamalt Selarn Seseine Tenoarpesas* (Kendamalar then Varama) Tentacule Tolat (Shargash) Tondiji Two Brothers of War (Humakt & Zorak Zoran) Udayankos* (Dama) Uleria Zienbeski* (Faranar) Edited August 4, 2023 by Gregory M 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 12:30 PM, Gregory M said: Question 4: I discover the existence of Sedaia, "the Queen of Kothar" (p. 108): "goddess of langiappe, a pseudocereal grown in the oases of Kothar". The oases of Kothar? In Jolar, I can understand, but it didn't seem to me that oases in Kothar were a notable feature of the region. Guide to Glorantha p. 590: "[Kothar is] A wide verdant plain, cut by clear rivers and covered with teeming herds. The natives consider it to be paradise. It is well-watered, and oasis centers do not exist here. Much of Kothar is savannah, covered with widely spaced, scattered trees." So, oases or not in Kothar? Oases in Kothar, as in places where sedentary folk practice horticulture on places protected by special local spirits. Possibly fewer of these, but Kothar approaches the Nargan Desert, too, with a decrease in fertility. The Kresh interact with a majority of non-wagon folks, whether sedentary (oases) or nomadic hunting/"transhumant gardening". 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkokko Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Nice to see another fellow GM in Pamaltela Quote My Glorantha/Mythras blog with Glorantha Cult One-pagers and Mythras Encounter Tool updates and Mythras GM Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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