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59 minutes ago, LeadAsbestos said:
Well, I guess the impending approach of Christmas and the timetable for the Guide pre-order AND Khan of Khans are going to be in conflict. Getting a bit late for spending...
ESTELLE MAERSK is just off Sri Lanka at the moment. Arrive in the UK the 1-2nd week of Dec, then customs and then run into Christmas.
My guess is that it's January, mid to late, that we get to see the slipcase and new printing of the Guide.
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On 20/11/2016 at 6:06 AM, Jeff said:
Thanks guys. I'll get these into the document. I've been working on the Wane maps.
Jeff can you please pre-post the document in the usual place once you have done the corrections? It'll then be easier to see what's been done and not double check the great work Martin has been doing.
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41 minutes ago, M Helsdon said:
Page 81: In 1539 the Dragonewts Dream began, and ended two years later – Guide says it ended in 1540.
True but The Guide also has the text: In 1539, the Dragonewts Dream began, and ended two years later. (page 73). But this might mean starts at the very beginning of 1539 and finished the very end 1540.
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Page 74 "forests, burned in spectacular song, with milder" is 'song' the right word here?
Page 74 "The overrun of the Empire of the Wyrms Friends and the Third Council was an eradication of the Dragon powers from men, and the mysterious Dragonewts Dream leaves great questions about what the draconic plan might be." Long, winding and difficult to understand sentence. Do you mean: "The overreach of the Empire of the Wyrms Friends and the Third Council led to the eradication of the Dragon powers from men (1042)[full stop] That and the more recent (1539-1540) mysterious Dragonewts Dream leaves great questions about what the next draconic plan might be" ?
Page 74 "the God of the Silver Feet" (as is in the Guide)
Page 75 and General: Hero(es) or hero(es) ?
Page 78 "us that such change in the world is coming soon." currently reads cor_ning soon, please let it not become a corny world
Page 79 and elsewhere; do you mean to use " -- "
Page 79 "Some woodlands withheld."
Page 79 "Sometimes the woods defended themselves valiantly, but the Aldryami role in the Great Darkness was primarily defensive." Doesn't read well, IMHO.
Page 79 "across Glorantha, trailed by brightening greenery[comma] flowers, and awakening elves."
Page 80 "various forms of dragonewt are different stages of development, but this is unproved." They don't always grow, but do develop
Page 80 "Demi-birds are feathered, beaked, and lay eggs, but their bones are solid and they have vestigial arms, not wings." Yet on Page 81: "They have atrophied wing-like appendages and two extremely powerful legs" So which one is it?
Page 81 "Then in 1042, as human enemies marched upon the fortified crust of the decaying Empire Without Friends," The Guide has 1042 when the "Leaders of Empire of the Wyrms Friends exterminated overnight," (page 137)
Page 81 "There followed about a century and a half without human contact at all."
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Throughout the document there is sometimes Great Darkness sometimes Greater Darkness. Can this be made consistently "Greater Darkness". However, both these terms are used in the Guide
Page 60 "Wakboth’s ways for their selfish ends (such as Vivamort, God of Unlife) " add clarity for newcomers
Page 62 "the River Styx (Edzaroun) heard of Vivamort’s betrayal and swore" consistent with the earlier mention of that god's name
Page 62 "in a [d]iaspora continent wide." It's not a noun? If capitalised it appears to apply specifically to Jewish history??
Page 64 "While she was on this Heroquest, powerful enemy " should it be Godquest ?
Page 68 "In Hell,
then,Yelm the Emperor and Orlanth the King came to terms."Page 70 "mortals alike, carrying them to the formless [V]oid."
Page 110 "Winter Wastes and borders on the [V]oid."
And maybe Page 12 "dragon-powers manifested themselves in [T]he [V]oid" "suggests that [T]he [V]oid is a state of bliss which"
And maybe Page 13 "Empty [V]oid, lay the Power of Disorder."
Also on...Page 29, 59, 62 (Martin motioned this last one too) "[V]oid." change 'void' here too?
Page 71 "regularity between [L]ight and Darkness, Life and Death"
Page 72 "entropy of Chaos into the living world is agreed"
Page 73 "The nature deities, when worshiped, are impersonal forces, almost beyond communication." Are you saying something like: "The nature deities are impersonal forces, almost beyond communication, when worshiped by the Pantheistic method." ? Or is this something to do with the "The Naturalistic approach"?
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Page 46 "Later, the son of Storm Bull named Waha the Butcher successfully led others in dispersing the remaining parts of the Devil’s body." "the son" or "a son"? Maybe better presented as: "Later, Waha the Butcher, son of Storm Bull, successfully led others in dispersing the remaining parts of the Devil’s body."
Page 47 "Some had followed lesser spirits or dark gods, but Waha taught them new" is this meant to mean: "Some had followed lesser spirits or Darkness Gods, but Waha taught them new" ?
Page 47 "Vadrus was [in]famous among the Yelm cultists because he was such a determined enemy of the Sky Gods". Infamous looks more accurate?
Page 47 "grew larger and colder until it conquered much of the northern world in the later Storm Age."
Page 48 "Others then followed his path, and all who are related to him have the curse, or the blessing, _of_ Death as a result."
Page 49 "His friends are all battle companions, such as Humakt and Storm Bull."
Page 50 "He is tested and bested." I'm a bit lost here: is he being bested / defeated here or not?
Page 50 in agreement with Martin and the Guide "The constellation of ten yellow stars" were described as 'orange stars' (Guide page 734). But in disagreement with Martin the Guide does not have the Orlanth's Ring appearing in 1622... "The next week, Orlanth’s Ring still did not emerge from the Stormgate." (page 731), but in 1624 (end of first column, page 732). If so, can you please correct The Eleven Light Martin, if you still editing that document?
Page 50 They are: Courage[comma] Wisdom[comma] Generosity[comma] Justice[comma] Honor[comma] and Piety.
Page 50 "only once, and then to very good effect" ...good...? maybe "notable" ?
Page 55 "tangle of Boggles loose at Yelm’s feast," - the Guide has them as Boggles and boggles. The Sourcebook has boggles (four times) and Boggles (once)
Page 55 "worked, though no new spells came to light from"
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A Word version would be nice.
Anyway, this morning's work so far:
Page 11 even though the cultures had never met and were separated by oceans, mountains[comma] and languages.Page 39 "War of the Gods" is use twice, before settling into "Gods War". Maybe just keep the first one for dramatic effect?Page 43 It disappeared in the late Second Age, but reappeared in 1625 amid great portents and terrible omens. (The Guide has "They had sailed on the maiden voyage of the new Boat Planet and" during the Dragonrise Page 735. The questing for this started the year before, but its first reappearance was 1625).Page 43 “He was born,” says a prayer, “[w]ith great noise, deafening, disabling,Page 46 "The father of the Storm Bull was Umath himself, the Allfather of Storm. His mother was Mikyh." The document is listing Umath's sons, so maybe it would be better to reword this and give a snippet about his mother?Maybe: Storm Bull's parents were Allfather of Storm and mother Mikyh..... -
OK. My potential typos detected:
Below are possible typos and suggested changes:
Page 1 Steve Swensto should be Steve Swenston
Page 3 "The Mundane World, where mortal beings exist, is atop the surface of the Earth cube. It is square, approximately 8000 kilometers on each side." Readers are not dumb: they know a cube is made up of squares on each side. Suggest change to: "The Mundane World, where mortal beings exist, is atop the surface of the Earth cube that is approximately 8000 kilometers on each side."Page 3 "To the south, east, and west all lie oceans: the Homeward, Kahar, and Neliomi." The Guide (Page 462-3) lists Kahar and Neliomi as Seas. Also south is Solkathi and Rozgali Seas with Homeward ocean far away.Page 3 "The Janube River runs from the Sweet Sea east of her to the Western Ocean". Change to: The Janube River runs from the Sweet Sea east of her towards the Western Ocean. OR. The Janube River runs from the Sweet Sea east of her to the Neliomi Sea.Page 4 "The hilly regions of Ralios are thickly inhabited with Elder Races, including Aldryami, Trolls, Dragonewts, and several Mostali cities".. First mention of these races. Therefore change to: including Aldryami (elves), Uz (trolls), Dragonewts, and several Mostali (dwarves) cities".NB Page 67 "Heortlings, Dragonewts, Aldryami, Uz [delete: trolls], and even the Gold Wheel Dancers."Page 4 "...dangerous White Sea." "...dangerous Keniryan Sea (White Sea)." Keniryan Sea is its name in the Guide.Page 4 : "She is thickly populated with humans, yellow elves, and dwarves." As there as many brown elves as dwarves, change to: "She is thickly populated with humans, yellow and brown elves, and dwarves."Page 4 : "oscure creatures" change to "obscure creatures"Page 4 : "To its north is the Homeward Ocean." Change to: "To its north are the Dashomo, Marthino, and Maslo Seas."Page 4 : "West, past the lands of men, rolls the chill Western Sea, which has no bounds." Actually west of Pametela is Swermela Sea and beyond that is Slon.Page 5 : The specific Runes are described below, by category.Some more corrections with the change highlighted in bold:
Page 14 "Dragon Pass residents are certain of four, and suspect many others, sometimes without justification." Four are listed, not three
Page 14 "The Green Dragon: The smallest of the four True Dragons known to men,"
Page 17 4. ORENOAR -- make this bold please, as the rest of the gods listPage 36 "SESHNA LIKITA is a daughter of Gata and Genert, and the land goddess of Seshnela."There is also a discrepancy with SESHNA LIKITA (page 36) being just SESHNA in the rest of the document, please fixPage 42 "The single moment when the Sun acted out of the ordinary is called Sunstop (375 S.T.) and is universally"Page 93 The year 375 was critical for Glorantha.Page 101 "ULURDA is" Please use 'is' not 'was'. The rest of the goddesses have 'is'.Page 101 "DANFIVE XARON was" (lower case)Page 105 1Syranthir opposed Arimdalla the Silver Lord, who was backed by the God Learners. In 719, [Missing text]Errors with matching up Lunar Calendar and ST calendar:Page 119: In 4/34 (1443) trouble fell first amid the very
Page 120: In 4/35 (1444), the Red Moon visibly dimmed
Page 120: In 4/37 (1446), the Sable People opposed
Page 120: In 4/40 (1449), the Emperor seized the
Page 122: In 5/2 (1465), the Lunar Army provoked the last of -- adding in (1465),
Page 123: In 5/2 (1465) aged 19, she went on her
Page 124: In 5/7 (1470), aged 24, she went on her Godquest,
Page 124: In 5/2 (1465) after the Battle of Iron Fences,
Page 131: In 6/47 (1564), he reorganized the Provincial System.
Page 132: In 7/30 (1601), much of the royal household
Page 133: An attempt by the rebels to take Yuthuppa was defeated in 7/53 (1624) by Jar-eel-
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I've sent a list of typos and had no response as well.
Some feedback would help.
Also would it not be better to post the corrections somewhere like here, so we avoid duplication?
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It's over half way through November, and as Christmas to New Year probably isn't a good time to finish a Kickstarter, this means that Chaosium is running out of time to launch Khan of Khans this year. Economically January is a harsher time for many so not a good time to start then either?
Does this mean were looking at a 3 month+ delay to the KoK launch?
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35 minutes ago, g33k said:
OOCL GENOA has left Taiwan -- https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9613587
I am not finding comparable info for the XIN YANTIAN, sorry! :-(
Don't take pre-orders until you can see the whites of their eyes lads (for those Michael Cane fans who can catch that nod).
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On 28/09/2016 at 7:05 PM, Rick Meints said:
Once we know the Guide is on the ships that will take it to our fulfillment warehouses in Australia, the UK, and the US pre-orders will start, most likely in October. Pre-orders will stay open for about one month, depending on how the sales go.
So I guess it's Pre-ordering Time now?
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20 minutes ago, Darius West said:
The fact is that Pavis is a fantasy city, and most GMs and players don't worry about where the fuel for the cooking fires comes from. As with going to a supermarket, the goods appear in the market and the problem is solved, and nobody asks where they came from... until they do, and nobody knows.
That's so true: in the modern world how does cheep food appear in our (super)markets? But you're quite right: best not to ask, especially about sausages!
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2 hours ago, Iskallor said:
Nearly run out of October.
The Kickstarter has already been moved forwards to November. (Sorry I cannot find the link)
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1 hour ago, Jeff said:
We will be making more announcements about the timing of the Kickstarter when we are ready. But my plan is to have everything written, illustrated, and even laid out before the Kickstarter even starts.
That's cool. For us Brits (who constituted a 1/5 of the RQ Classic backers) might need as much notice as possible to save particularly now that the exchange rate is working against us.
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2 hours ago, Jeff said:
The first thing out will be the Quickstart (plus related demo/con scenarios), which we expect to have out by GenCon (or even Origins). Then comes the big release of Phase I (core rules, gm book, bestiary, campaign book, plus play aids). Then comes Phase II...
Intriguing. So when will the RQ Kickstarter fit into all of this?
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9 minutes ago, Atgxtg said:
The idea here is that if you impale some one with a knife you probably have it stuck at least 6 inches (15cm) deep. So think if it as trying to pull out a grounded tent peg.
I would probably steer clear of assigning a depth to which a knife gets stuck. Too many variables that would influence if something gets stuck or not, least not the type of knife itself.
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54 minutes ago, MOB said:
The runes are those as given in RQ2 Cults of Prax
Yes. But Chaosium should be keeping the canon so we don't have to!
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Quite a few of the cults' runes are wrong
Zorak Zoran Runes are Disorder, Darkness, Death (GtG page 150 ) - Disorder is missing from the RedRubble T-shirt / Postcards etc.
Kyger Litor Runes are Darkness, Man, Spirit (GtG page 150 ) - Spirit is missing from the RedRubble T-shirt / Postcards etc.
Argan Argar are Darkness, Trade, Mastery (GtG page 150 ) - Mastery is missing from the RedRubble T-shirt / Postcards etc.
Humakt has Death, Truth, Death - common bad arse deserves his second death rune!
etc.
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Excellent. Can add:
Games Master International Issue 3 published October 1990: A Newsfield Publication. Snake eyes a RuneQuest mini adventure
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Have a colourful, detailed calendar similar in design to RQIII but larger boxes to allow more detail. Have the art (and RQ / Chaosium logo) around a centrally placed calendar. Use thick card board. One season, one piece of board. A miniature Arachne Solara to indicate which day it is.
But whatever is done make it a visual fest that hooks you into wanting to use it.
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9 minutes ago, Nick J. said:
I honestly have no idea. I'm a fairly recent arrival to the world of Glorantha. I just know that you can get all of the Gloranthan Classics title except P&BR in print form on Chaosium's webstore. Nobleknight is out of stock, Ebay sellers charge an arm-and-a-leg and I couldn't find a copy for what I consider a reasonable price. So I broke down and did some PDF-fu and made my own.
If/when it comes available through Chaosium I'll buy it in a heartbeat.
Oh, Okay. Further info can be got on their cunning plans at their RuneQuest Kickstarter pages, and their company web page...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224590870/runequest-classic-edition/description
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224590870/runequest-classic-edition/posts/1450259
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15 minutes ago, Nick J. said:
For products that are long out of print, it's possible to take a PDF and create a private project with a print-on-demand service (like lulu.com) I did that with Pavis & Big Rubble because all of the aftermarket copies I've seen were north of $200 U.S.
That said, if Chaosium ever decides to release another physical copy of Pavis & Big Rubble I'd gladly buy a copy; the POD version is OK, but the quality is nowhere as nice as my retail Borderlands and Griffin Mountain books.
For the record I don't condone making copies of books that are still available from the publisher and you should not try to sell these for profit.
Isn't Chaosium going to reprint Pavis in book form, and same too for the Big Rubble? They should complete the PDFs this year, and then hopefully soon after put back in to print - hopefully ready for the new RQ.
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Absolutely! Colourful and evocative. And with the relevant info to hand. And a miniature / counter to represent which day it is. Make it a feature.
Glorantha Sourcebook (13th Age)
in Glorantha
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Page 82 Change jolanti to Jolanti and nilmergs to Nilmergs as per the Guide
Page 82 Change "and only the rare truestone fragment retains any of" "and only the rare Truestone fragments retain any of"
Page 83 "Mostal himself had his legendary Laboratory within the Spike" assuming it's being named here
Page 83 Change Ratslaff to Ratslaf as per the Guide. Also make this change on Page 15 and Page 17
Page 83 "At one point, Umath and his sons set their muscles to work and tore the groaning sky from its place, thrusting it away from the earth" But the Guide has: "Umath’s first recorded activity was to demand a realm of his own to be equal to those of his parents." It feels like that's how Umath entered the world, although I appreciate all myth are true.