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54 minutes ago, David Scott said:
One of the underlying themes of the Prax book is that Praxian animals are not Earth animals. They behave differently, eat differently, but look similar to their Earth counterparts. I do however need at starting point so that readers and players have some idea what I'm talking about:
A small aside: maybe use the term 'terrestrial' rather than 'Earth', as 'Earth' is also the name for one of the Gloranthan Elemental Runes. And more confusingly these animals do have an Runic Earth connection?
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2 minutes ago, Jeff said:
And these edits are all in. At least those that are not intentional edits. Thank you all so much for this herculean task.
Does this mean the MSS is now in layout? All art done? Here's hoping!
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46 minutes ago, styopa said:
Maybe it's just the homonymic adjacency of Quickstart and Kickstart in my head, but I'm a little confused.
So RQ QUICKstart is ETA June-ish.
RQ KICKstart will be done after GenCon (ie mid Aug)
But the RQ books will be 'done' before the kickstart - "done" meaning "completed in composition and editing, ready to be printed" I assume? Considering they're going to be done before it even starts, it's not really a Kickstart, is it? More like using the Kickstart engine to serve a pre-order mechanism? (EDIT: my point was that I was going to ask if we could put in pre-orders, etc, but if that's the point of the kickstart, it would be a dumb question)
Or am I just totally misunderstanding?
Thanks!
My guess:
1) It is a pre-order system, allowing Chaosium to get the money upfront and not have to take a big guess of demand
2) It's a Kickstarter in it allows (hopefully) for Premium Rewards e.g. Leather bound books, Slipcases, The Definitive Book on God Learners etc.
3) They might have a few nice little stretch goals in mind, if funds allow
4) It's also a nice bit of publicity to raise awareness
5) Helps restore Chaosium's Kickstarter reputation
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Page 22. Maybe change to:
“It costs 500 L. per additional 5% up to 25%, and 1000 L. per additional 5% to raise the skill from 26% to 50%.”
As 1) For Eiritha it costs this amount and 2) on Page 112 it costs this amount for both Storm Bull and Eiritha
Change “Counter-magic” to “Countermagic” on Page 109 (twice), and Page 24
Page 24 “The ceremonies start on Godsday of Death week, Dark-[remove space]season,”
Page 24 “Instead of knowing how to read and write his native tongue a candidate must have purchased the Beast-speech Rune magic spell as an Initiate.”
Maybe clarify this to:
“Instead of knowing how to read and write his native tongue a candidate must have purchased the Speak to Beasts Rune magic spell as an Initiate.”
Page 36 “not do more than 9 points of damage, a greatsword will do up to”
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The layout has changed since the original, so the page credits for the various artists need changing:
Corrected version should be:
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Interior Illustrations by William Church (13, 34); Guy Conrad (56); Gene Day (38, 43, 46, 59, 72, 84, 90, 96, 115)
Luise Perrin (75, 105); Steve Swenston (20, 25, 32, 101).
Page 110
D. NEW WEAPONS DATA
SCIMITAR Has 20 Hit points in the original edition
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Page 111
E. CALENDAR OF HOLY DAYS
Down the left side of the table is missing the list of seasons (Storm, Dark, Earth, Fire, Sea). Please add back in.
Zagog has been added to the Calendar of Holy Days. Was this intended? Curious.
Storm Bull’s Holy day has been move in Storm Season to Illusion week. The original has it in Stasis week, which matches the Cult description.
Similarly, in Dark Season the Lunar Holy Day has been moved to Truth week, but is in the Illusion week in the original.
Page 112
F. NEW SKILLS
To match the rest of the table, change:
First Aid Chalana Arroy free free 100/200/400/800
to
First Aid Chalana Arroy Free Free 100/200/400/800
G. NEW BATTLE MAGICS maybe change to “G. NEW BATTLE MAGIC” – as per CoT
Column title ‘Skill’ change to ‘Spell’
To match what was done in the original, change:
Jumping Variable Kiger Litor Unavailable As Variable Unavailable
To
Jumping Variable Kyger Litor Unavailable As Variable Unavailable
Lantern Variable Yelmalio As Variable 500/L Point Unavailable
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Lantern Variable Yelmalio As Variable 500 L / Point As Variable
Sleep Variable Chalana Arroy Unavailable As Variable Unavailable
To
Sleep Variable Chalana Arroy Unavailable Free Unavailable
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The original had the following which might be added:
Editing and Additional Material by Lynn Willis, Greg Stafford, and Charlie Krank
PAUL JAQUAYS (pages 44, 65, 93)
Should be
PAUL JAQUAYS (pages 44, 52, 65)
- You moved the picture where it should have gone all those years ago!
Possibly missing is a credit to ‘Luise’ for her picture on page 75
Page 82
The original Karshtkids HP descriptions had ‘Front Leg’, ‘R. Front Leg’ rather than ‘F Leg’; RF Leg etc. Is the old way better?
Page 91 New Skills
Bat Mastery but the original was Bat Mastery*
Disguise* but the original was Disguise**
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Page 25 Under Chaos Feature:
“Duration instantaneous and permanent, Range touch, not Reusable, Non-stackable”
Should be:
“Duration instantaneous and permanent, range touch, non-reusable, non-stackable”
- Which is the same as the original
Or, if you want to be in keeping with the rest of the document:
“permanent, touch, non-reusable, non-stackable”
Page 28
“and has the following nominal rates: 300/[delete space]600/1200/2000 L.”
Page 31
“He also will steal 1[delete space]D3 points POW directly”
Page 32
Under the diseases Brittleskin/ Convulsions/ Bleeding Disease
“The above diseases can only be cured by successfully using:
spirits of Healing, Divine Intervention, or Mallia initiation.”
- The original CoT also lists Cure Disease spell as an option
Page 35
“Darkwall, Healing 4-6, Mind-speech, and Protection 4.”
Should be:
“Darkwall, Healing 4-6, Mindspeech, and Protection 4.”
Page 36
“Venom Boosting 2 point”
Should this be “Venom Boosting 1 point”? In the original Venom Boosting was listed under the 1-point spells in the Bagog write up and in the list of new spells at the end of the book, but had text to say it was 2-point in the spell description
-- Also the 1-point spells are not in alphabetical order, which the original edition also did for this cult write up
Page 42
“magic, nor will they consent to be placed in Mind-link with the”
May be:
“magic, nor will they consent to be placed in Mind Link with the”
Page 57
“Parry with medium shield, Move Silently, Hide in Cover, Darktongue (Read, Write, and Speak), Garrote.”
Page 57
“Training: 200/400/900L./experience”
The original was: Training: 200/400/800L./experience
Page 57
“Damage: 1D6+1 (damage ignores all armor except hood, unless[delete full stop] neck armor is specified.)”
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Page 66. INT 25 CON 16 SIZ 1 (space) POW 30 DEX 20
Page 82. "If successful, the target will take 4D3 damage - In a Disruption spell." Should be "If successful, the target will take 4D3 damage as in a Disruption spell."
Page 82. Spit(space) - the spit of the Krarshtkid is the pratzim base which
Page 82. The Text under 'Weapons' for Karshkids is left aligned - differing from what was done originally. Was this intended?
Page 88. "The example formula is 13 + 11 + 5, divided by 3, then multiplied by 3, equaling a 29% chance to gain approval."
Page 88. "The example formula thus stands at 13 + 11 + 25, divided by 3, then multiplied by 2, equaling a 33% chance of acceptance." (If the rule is to round up 32.6667 to a whole number)
Page 91. Under New Battle Magic the layout for 'Image Creation' has the wrong text under the relevant headers
Page 91. H. NEW RUNE SPELLS The 2-point and 3-pioint spells are not in blocks of 5 (or less) which differs from what was done originally. Was this intended?
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That I was going to buy the slipcase was a given.
What chance I had to resist buying another copy of the Guide disappeared with the sight of the Chaosium logo on its side.
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1 hour ago, Rick Meints said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop submitting factual things you want updated to match the Guide or any other more current texts. ....
. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
This is a relief to hear. I was worried after the additional dates were put in the RQ2 rules (page 7) that this would happen.
Happy to keep the inconsistency / ambiguity going.
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Page 29 "will continue sneezing for 1 D10 strike ranks. During" - correct formatting error
It's great to see the cover in such vivid colour. Hopefully this will be added to Redbubble at some stage to get a poster of it.
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4 minutes ago, Rick Meints said:
With all respect and politeness, please don't call these topics "Errata".
What you are finding is great. These are typos, formatting, and similar adjustments. These are NOT Errata.
Errata is a very specific term for RULES issues and fixes. It is incredibly potentially misleading to have all this under an errata thread. People can easily get the misbelief that the book is a train wreck of errors that make it unplayable. A missing comma, an extra space, or a long dash instead of a short dash are nice to correct, but they have NO impact on game play.
No problems, my error sorry. Is there a away to fix my own typo with the Header of the Thread?
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Page 17. "The year 375 was critical for Glorantha."
Page 19 "The war against Gbaji had lasted 50 years; now Arkat retired" - as per the Guide
Page 19 "and kept the area around it under his watchful eye for his other 50 years. In" - as per the Guide
Page 21 "Four kings of the Bilini are important to the narrative. The first is Eric *, whom Ketil killed in 1611 S.T.." The text to which the * is link to is on page 24: not that helpful - maybe add some reference to where to find this supportive text.
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Similar to the Cults of Prax Errata thread, some possible tweaks to be done:
Page 94
"characters had reached relatively powerful positions as Rune Lords* or Rune Priests" -- capitals? Also what is the * for ? Should this be deleted?
Page 77 "some misgivings, I conferred with a Lhankor Mhy priest in"
Page 78 "things were unknown to us or to the Lhankor Mhy priest, "
Page 94
"a proper idea of the place of Chaos within the world, and to" -- capital C for Chaos?
"against the growing threat of Chaos armies from the vile land of" -- capital C for Chaos?
"proper presentation and powers which were appropriate to its" - remove apostrophe
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4 minutes ago, jajagappa said:
It was rarely spelled consistently in those days. RQ2 uses the latter spelling as well (p.77), Apple Lane the former, Snakepipe Hollow has both. I certainly felt that both were valid and simply reflected dialect differences.
True, but...
Page 108 of Cults of Prax Classic Edition:
"You see, if you will check the book, you will find that the name of the god is spelled Lhankor Mhy through all of the book except for in the god’s own section, where it is spelled Lankhor Mhy. This editorial blunder resulted from dual authorship and managed to slip past three competent proof readers." - Greg Stafford
Not this time Greg!
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Page 29 "the Three Bean Circus, Ronance, the Good Shepherd, and" to "the 3 Bean Circus, Ronance, the Good Shepherd, and"
Page 113 "3-Bean Circus" to "3 Bean Circus"
Page 113 "Create Zombies" to "Create Zombie"
Page 20 "Raised Cost (2 X normal) - Lockpicking, Pick Pocketing." change to "Increased Cost (2 X normal): Lockpicking, Pick Pocketing."
Page 29
"Cheap (½ X): all 1 handed axe-type weapons." change to "Reduced Cost (½ X): all 1 handed axe-type weapons."
"Restricted (2 X): all non-axe weapons" change to "Increased Cost (2 X): all non-axe weapons...""Cheap: Healing, Xenohealing, Farsee, Binding." change to "Reduced Cost (½ X): Healing, Xenohealing, Farsee, Binding."
"Restricted: Protection." change to "Increased Cost (2 X): Protection."Page 32
EIRITHAN GENEALOGY -- Is it possible to have more consistent Font Size, even within a box for one example look at the "(48 Old Ones)"
Page 57
maximum hit points: 12[comma] flying speed: 36[comma] walking speed: 2
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Changes / corrections in bold for this set:
Page 58 "Save for Humakt and Eurmal, he was the only witness to the death of Grandfather Mortal"
"passive save for her healing, while the world grew ill in the Gods War." (add 's')
"he was heading for the Great Doom, and so set off on the Lightbringers' Quest."
Page 59 "Issaries was found in various places and roles during the Gods War." (remove apostrophe)
Page 65 "On the Lightbringers' Quest she raised no arms nor made decisions, and in the new"
Lhankor Mhy is incorrectly spelt as Lankhor Mhy on pages 110 (table) 111 (table)
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General formatting: Is there something that can be done to make the Header for the name of each god a bit more distinctive? I keep missing where the cult description for each god starts - especially now that they no longer have a page break between each of them.
Page 36. List of 1-point spells is out of alphabetical order: please change Turn Undead and Truesword
Page 36. Change "Range160" to "Range [add space]160" for the spells: Turn Undead & Sever Spirit
Page 113 Formatting error: For the Telekinesis spell please put Chalana Arroy/Issaries/Lhankor Mhy in the correct column
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Possibly worth tidying up some of dates as done in the RuneQuest Classic book:
Page 116
Maybe change c.375 S.T. Trolls and Dragonewts. to c.375 S.T. — [add long dash] Trolls and Dragonewts.
Maybe change c.500 S.T. — Establishment of the Empire of the Wyrms Friends and the beginning of their seduction by Dragon Powers. -- Very much Circa (!) to c.575 S.T. — Establishment of the Empire of the Wyrms Friends and the beginning of their seduction by Dragon Powers.
Because: 575 is when "Vistikos Left-eye founds the first Waltzing and Hunting Bands to establish the formula and pattern for a draconic human life" (as per the Guide)
Page 117
Maybe 830 S.T. — [add long dash] Pavis brings the Faceless Statue of Stone to Prax and defeats Waha, thereby establishing his city. [no c., and as per the Guide]
Maybe 1237 S.T. — Trolls led by Gerak Kag invade Pavis and settle there. [no c., and as per the Guide]
Maybe 1042 S.T. - The dragonewts turn on the Third Council... to 1042 S.T. — [long dash] The dragonewts turn on the Third Council...
Maybe THIRD AGE (C. L100-1650) to THIRD AGE (C. 1100-1650) -- also just spotted Greg's first mention of the Third Age's end date !
Maybe 1220 S.T. Birth of the Red Moon Goddess... to 1220 — [add long dash] S.T. Birth of the Red Moon Goddess...
Maybe 1550 S.T. — Start of the five-year Dragonewts Dream.... to 1539 S.T. — Start of the two-year Dragonewts Dream.... [as per the Guide]
Maybe 1575 S.T. Sartar colonists settle the fortress of Pavis Out. side.... to 1550 — [add long dash] S.T. Sartar colonists settle the fortress of Pavis Outside [as per the Guide]
Maybe 1610 S.T. The Lunar Empire conquers Prax.... to 1610 S.T. — [add long dash] The Lunar Empire conquers Prax
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Forgive if repeated before: without an updated manuscript it is challenging to see if things have already been mentioned:
Page 89 "He led a crusade for 75 years by the strength of his might and magic." Suggest "He led a crusade for 50 years by the strength of his might and magic." as per the Guide page 130
-- Martin has already picked up on the repeat error on page 95
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The very nice classic edition of Cults of Prax is out. This thread is to suggest possible minor tweaks to the file to improve things further, if possible:
Move Resurrection subheading on Page 16 to 17 and delete the text under Spirit Block: "This spell, by the way, is allowed by all priesthoods. It is therefore added to the list of Standard Rune magic Spells as number 25." Spirit Block is already in the RuneQuest rules. I guess this comes about because the first edition CoP is talking about the first edition of RQ.It also makes for neater layout.
Page 44 & page 71 Resurrection --> Table--> Rune Magic Losses--> 5 days dead: Test has "All" [empty line] "One-use". Maybe delete the [empty line] for clarity and change to: "All" next line "one-use" Lower case for "one-use" as per the rest of the document
Page 44 "training for[add space}10% less than normal"
Page 25 & 34 Change: "Increased Cost ( X 2):" to "Increased Cost (X 2):" - delete space between ( and X
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1 hour ago, jajagappa said:
it's just another name for the White or Keniryan Sea and think that's the context of the sentence.
I agree, but two names is enough for one place!
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59 minutes ago, jajagappa said:
That depends on whether it was the nest of one dragon or many. I think the plural is correct here.
Dragon’s Nest is the name given in the Guide (page 682, 708), in particular page 682 talks about it in relation to Kero Fin.
Disruption
in RuneQuest
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It's interesting to see how people use the rules differently, in this case for Disruption, and not to have an instant intervention giving us the One True Way for Da Rulzs.
And I'm glad if Jeff is more focused on the current RQ version than RQ2, which is probably played within a group's House Rule system anyway.