jajagappa Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Akhôrahil said: In the real world, "Ur" (Old Norse Ürr) was the name of the aurochs. And don't forget: ur- prefix meaning "original, earliest, primitive," I.e. Ur-ox as the original ox. (See similar usage of Ur-Argrath as in the original Argrath saga). I do not believe Ur- is related to Eur- 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHW Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, jajagappa said: And don't forget: ur- prefix meaning "original, earliest, primitive," I.e. Ur-ox as the original ox. (See similar usage of Ur-Argrath as in the original Argrath saga). I do not believe Ur- is related to Eur- I think you’re right. That was a stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 hours ago, jajagappa said: And don't forget: ur- prefix meaning "original, earliest, primitive," This is something that exists, but in the case of the aurochs (and Urox), it's not part of at least the English-language etymology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 So the Ur-Argrath Saga wasn't the most bull? But seriously, urox is to me a transcription of an ancient Theyalan expression into an ancient (proto-) English expression and shouldn't be used as source material for Theyalan. Uralda, on the other hand... is an unholy mix of the two. Given the vast scope for language admixing in the history of the Vingkotlings and the previous earth goddess cultures, Theyalan probably has as many roots as does English, even when those roots branched off from the same original runic languages. There are several potential incursions for Fire-Rune based languages into the Theyalan language family, as the lowfire husbands and of course Mahome herself - possibly a Veskarthic influence rather than a Dara Happan - and the Harono domination in Esrolia lifted by Orlanth/Kodig, and then the rider influences through the followers of Beren and Ulanin. We lack information about the wives of Korol and Jorganos (and the widow of Lastralgor) and what possible cultural and linguistic inheritences they may have brought with them. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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