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    been playing RuneQuest in some form off and one since the mid-80s, been a fanatic Glorantha fan for the same length of time. Also play many other RPGs.
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    Mostly Glorantha, in all its forms.
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    Lhankor Mhy Sage according to MOB. Or is it Irripi Ontor?

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  1. davecake

    orlanthi cults in Umathela

    The Doraddi are not hostile to tree like growth in general. They like several specific trees. They are hostile to forests and Aldryami, but that’s different.
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    House Rules

    My main house rule around sorcery is to reintroduce Grimoires as a game concept (as they are in eg HeroQuest Glorantha). If you’ve mastered a Rune, you can learn a grimoire based around that Rune, and any spell you learn in the same grimoire is cast at the same skill percentage (though you still need to learn the spell). I found the separate skill for every spell in RQ3 basically terrible for my taste. For me it’s similar to the move to Rune Points - it means the variety of unusual, especially non-combat, spells become much more attractive so playing a sorcerer becomes potentially a lot more interesting (though still much the same in flavour). It’s up to the GM to maintain game balance by ensuring that only a small number of really melee effective spells are in each grimoire, but adding a few either utility spells or situationally effective spells makes a sorcerer much more interesting to play. I also don’t like Techniques - a quite complicated sub-system that in practice just means some spells cost double MPs.
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    House Rules

    One of the truly classic, evergreen generators of intra-party roleplaying conflict in RuneQuest is a party of players who have learnt this rule - except the best fighter in the party is a Humakti who is geased to never participate in an ambush. Obviously, this is the system working just as it should be.
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    Tell me of Sheng Seleris

    Where?
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    Whatever Happened to the Cradle Baby?

    Not all giants are the same, yes - the Cradle Baby, although still a baby, is already larger than many giants. And Gonn Orta and his people seem to lack the Disorderly nature of 'standard' giants. But there does seem to be some relationship (or at least, Gonn Orta acts as if there is), we just don't know what it is.
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    Who's the Orlanthi deity of...

    The blue moon associations of the potato must relate to the Artmali and the Veldang, then.
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    Gloranthan Martial Arts

    I once had an office that bordered on a courtyard inhabited by peacocks. So I heartedly endorse the comment.
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    Greg Stafford Condolence Thread

    Greg was my favourite creator in my favourite hobby, but he has ended up a lot more. He took our nerdy hobby and, with his deep knowledge of the sacred, showed it could be a window into the profound. He ended up teaching me more about spirituality than any professional holy man ever has, and about creativity and play as well. It felt like he still had so much creativity to share with world still to come. i was lucky enough to meet him a few times, and collaborate with him a little. He was a joy, so interested in others and so open. A memory I will never forget is the first time I heard him tell the story of the Red Goddess, at twilight behind a school on Melbourne, an audience spellbound listen8ng to the great storyteller tell one his greatest stories. Farewell beloved Arkati trickster shaman. May Daka Fal bless and guide you. And my deepest condolences to those who knew him better than I, his colleagues, friends and family.
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    Tell me of Sheng Seleris

    Sheng is worse than other nomads, worse than the Alkothi, far worse than life as normal. He is a bit like being ruled over by the Char-un or Grazers - if the Char-un followed a god who believed life was torture and slavery (rather than a goddess of liberation and compassion). So much worse. The path of Jolaty makes the nomads capable of far greater cruelties than they were before. Sure, the Grazers enslave the vendref - but they have a relatively benign earth goddess ruler, rather than a torture and slave god And no, the poor of the empire eat gruel, not scrabbling for leaves and insects. The empire is normally fairly rich in grain, in any era outside the Darkness except for Shengs rule. Yes, it’s worse than the Bull shahs. The bull shahs were no doubt brutal to the aristocracy and combatants that resisted them, but wanted only to rule - and preferably rule a productive, rich land. We have no evidence the Bull shahs has a policy of deliberately cruel the way Shengs troops were. The Alkothi, also, are brutal enemies, but Tolat is also a love god (and the Alkothi worship Alkor and BisElensliba) - They are dangerous as warriors, but not great murderers of innocents or torture lovers. The Windstop may have been somewhat worse as a famine, but was far shorter and less deliberately cruel. Sheng hated *agriculture* and deliberately threw the land into famine, for a generation or so. And Tatius may have enjoyed the effect of the Windstop - but he didn’t drop by and deliberately murder and rape the inhabitants of Sartar while it was happening. for large parts of Peloria and Kralorela, the rule of Sheng was worse than anything since the Darkness. The rule of Sheng was the Rape of Nanking, it was the Killing Fields, it was the Holodomor.
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    Tell me of Sheng Seleris

    And he made the Puchair river run red with blood for a week. The destruction of fields, and diversion of resources, meant horrific famine through much of the conquered territory. And murdered and rape of subject peoples by nomad warriors was apparently routine. In the fragment from Greya Two-Mothers story that Greg published in Moonrites, Greya ( who was born during the nomad occupation) describes growing up eating leaves and cockroaches. She also describes the time her family buried her and camouflaged the tiny part of her face sticking out with boards and leaves, so she will not be discovered and raped by ‘demons’, who do rape her mother and murder her aunt. There are probably parts of the vast Empire that Shengs troops seldom visited, and did not destroy. Those parts that accepted his rule without war, and whose religious practices he found acceptable. Ignorance, for example. But for the Lunar and Kralorelan provinces that Sheng conquered by warfare, and ran his troops through regularly, his reign was hellish and brutal.
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    Tell me of Sheng Seleris

    You are quite right Peter, it was published in GCon IV Compendium, I had forgotten. All the more reason to consider it correct, IMO!
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    Who's the Orlanthi deity of...

    Esrolia is the land of 10,000 goddesses. That surely includes at least one focussed on cabbages. Which is being flippant, but the earth religion includes an enormous amount of minor deities for every major plant, craft, many minerals, different types of magic, domestic animal, etc. The several dozen we do have names for are just scratching the surface. Just most of them aren't important enough to name or get individual worship most places. But they all are associated with Ernalda, so most of time time worshipping Ernalda or Esrola is fine, and only the ones at the top of the list every get broken out into even a sub-cult. Most of the time, it is as Jeff says, you throw in a reference to cabbage in with your normal earth sacrifices. In Thunder Rebels it is specifically noted that the magic of Esrola also works on garden vegetables, including cabbage. And in multiple places there are references to the cabbage-folk as a class of people within Orlanthi society - cabbage is the generic garden vegetable in Sartar.
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    Tell me of Sheng Seleris

    Well, I'm not quite sure how ass kicking they are, but sure, they are useful if you want to kick the ass of normal humans, just might not be quite up to the task of invading the moon. Maybe, I will check my copy to see if what made it there is slightly different. Sure, but it is very explicit about that almost 100 years thing being really significant. You can ignore that if you find the sources contradicting your personal favoured interpretation annoying, but thats just a big YGWV. And YGMV all you want with all our blessings. Just don't ask me to reject Chaosium sources in favour of your (single) interpretation. Yeah, they have immunity the way mystics do, not in some absolute sense (though, of course, some mystics may go beyond what are described in detail in current sources). My apologies for not explicitly qualifying every comment with references to the sources that I assume everyone involved has read. You can't be simultaneously rigorously following a traditional nomad lifestyle, AND being locked in a torture camp? You can't both be a combat demigod charging into the sky, and shunning all magic? Sheng has more than one type of powerful follower, as you'd expect from a guy who has built an incredibly complex empire out of at least three other empires. They serve different roles. I think the Bursts practice some Zolathi practices, but are not professional mystics, but professional magic warriors. Again, I rather figured that we all understood this? I mean, you can't have missed that and still know what a Burst is unless you stopped reading at that one paragraph and didn't read any further in the same text box. But that is the Warmed, who are not the Bursts or the Zolathi but something else. FWIW, I think the Zolathi are feared, and bring terror to the population, because they are Sheng's commissars. They are immune to divine retribution and such, so they intrude into the temples of the Warmed, and especially the Fires, and mercilessly punish any who indulge in any religious practice, or preach any religious doctrine, that does not fully accord with Sheng's doctrine of 'Good Slavery', and so accept the rightness of his rule. They are absolutely willing to countenance horrific punishment for any infraction (and will dismissively reply that they have suffered worse when asked for mercy, even for many horrific tortures). But they disdain magic themselves. In short, the Rays and Emanations are the general leadership caste of the Empire - they are nomads loyal to Sheng who command his empire, and charge about mostly organising his campaigns and subject peoples. The Bursts are a small, hard core, within that group who are dedicated to full time magical combat and leadership - effectively, wiping out any concerted opposition and aiding Sheng directly. But given the Rays and Bursts are riding about all the time, who is it that is directly controlling the cities, and ensuring that all opposition is wiped out? That, I think, is one of the roles of Zolathi. (the later Lunar dolathi of the Order of the Day are far less hard core on ascetism, and fully endorse non-ascetic religious practice as acceptable, which of course is convenient for the Red Emperors who champion Lunar decadance)
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    Shamans and Priests

    Well sure, but if you are thinking long term, you'll be taking Soul Expansion so you have more POW to dump into your Fetch and Rune pool. There are probably equivalent ways for seriously long term ambitious sorcerers and priests to acquire similar boosts, we just don't know what they are yet.
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    Who were the God Learners' Heroes?

    Not so much via Arkat, but the description of malkioneranism in MSE makes it seem very likely that they were an Illuminated sect within the God Learners, at least that is my assumption. Of course, some other sects of the God Learners viewed this with extreme suspicion.
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