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  1. Yeah, if you've got 4th edition, I wouldn't worry about getting 5th. The only changes in 5th, 5.1, and 5.2 are artwork and editing and a few-odd rules clarifications/updates. I actually prefer Book of Knights and Ladies for character creation, but they are planning on doing a new version of it, Knights and Ladies Adventurous, for 6th edition so i wouldn't worry about it unless you can get it in a sale/bundle, or you really want rules for foreign knights because the new one isn't going to include those rules last i heard.
  2. Does anyone know who has rights to these adventures? Chaosium or whoever does French publishing, or even somehow the authors? I would love them to get an English translation if at all possible.
  3. Also, don't forget that either one of them would need weeks of chrirurgury, so even without fudging things or foul play, either one could easily still die of infection along the way. Especially Gorlois, who really does need to die here in my opinion.
  4. Probably are knights of the Count, maybe a few of the richer vassals as well. Keep in mind that the family ha served the county for around 4 generations, these families are precisely where he'd draw from for knights. BoKL also has a tale to roll for lord that I use sometimes also. Household knights, as the name implies, loud in the household of their lord. They definitely get some free time of course, to adventure and visit family, and since Roderick has a lot manors, he probably has men checking up on them pretty much all of the time, even when he's not there, so they would be spread out across his holdings, not just always by his side.
  5. Well, the Count would spend a bit of time there, when he's out on progress. Probably has a household knight or two that stay there pretty much all the time. Certainly at least some guards and servants, even when not in use
  6. So, generally speaking, any family knight would be a household knight, unless decided otherwise. Most knights are household knights, relatively few vassals. Honestly, I'd either make the players themselves household knights, or if you're using the Book of Knights and Ladies, you can roll for it, which is my preferred method (I actually use a very slightly different system based on the one from BoKL, which I could share if anyone wanted it). To actually answer your question about wealth, if they're a household knight, they'd basically be Ordinary all the time, maybe poor during leaner years, especially if their lord isn't like, one of the powerful barons like Count Salisbury. If they're a vassal knight, it depends on their land's worth, a single 10 libra manor would keep them at Ordinary, 30 libra in lands would make them rich, etc. Mercenary knights would probably hover around poor and ordinary, depending on if there are wars to be hired in, and how successful those wars are.
  7. Yeah, I think it's traditional for a Lord to give his knights gifts, and to get gifts from them in return, and it all kind of cancels itself out, generally. There was a year in GPC where Uther gives everyone more lavish gifts than usual, I believe, that might be a good indicator of things. I could see value in a chart showing the kinds of things that would be given as gifts, but have no mechanical benefits, and maybe an option on the chart for rolling on better tables. Since I generally try and keep all the dice either d20s or d6s when dealing with Pendragon, maybe have the first table be normal items, but on a 20, roll on the next table, and same on the next table, getting progressively better. Then, maybe due to yearly actions or Glory or something, you might get bonuses on the table. Something like that.
  8. Well, when I do this, I don't give them the option for point buy instead, so in this case I sort of am forcing them to roll randomly.
  9. Dunno if this is helpful, I use a hybrid method, we roll randomly, but if they roll really poorly, I'll give them the difference between what they rolled and 60 in points to spend. They will have less in raw points than the ones who lucked out and got super high, but they have more control over where those points go and can therefore spend them more wisely. In my current game, my sister only had like, 56 points after she rolled, and my friend had like, 65, but that was because he rolled a really high APP, she was able to invest in SIZ, STR, and CON and is the best at combat by a pretty wide margin.
  10. Ah, I see. Sorry for the confusion there, I guess that would be appropriate by that definition, but the GPC never refers to her as such. I typically reserve Dame for female knights only, and I might be wrong but that's the only way I can remember the term being used in supplements.
  11. I don't really have an answer to your questions, as I'm currently playing the only non-solo Pendragon campaign I've ever ran (by which I meant me as the GM and one player, not just me, though with certain tools I think that would be workable), and we're not quite to the Anarchy yet. That, and the war with Lancelot, and possibly the crowning of Arthur, are the only big points that I think could really lead to major disagreements, though I am likely forgetting at least some of them. I will ask if by Dame Elaine, you mean Countess Ellen? As far as I remember, the only Elaine mentioned in the GPC is the middle daughter of Ygraine and Gorlois, and anyway neither one of them are knights. I think the core book might waffle on whether or not female knights are referred to be "dame" or not (I think it had some other meaning at some point? Don't rightly remember), but I don't think that would be the appropriate terminology. I could be wrong on this, though.
  12. Maybe they're planning a late-phase sourcebook? Not really sure what, if any, long-term Paladin plans there are. As for the question at hand, there are absolutely things to steal from Paladin, but everything is flavored very differently. There is a slightly different family events table, generally a better one, but it also doesn't really have an option for "nothing," or "rumors," which... bothers me a bit. I've sort of lazily cobbled together a combo of the tables though, so it's doable. The solos are very much flavored towards Paladin, but there's a couple neat things in there.
  13. So, this is probably not helpful, but here's how I deal with clothes/gems: Basically, a knight is always able to maintain their clothes at their expected standard of living (so I don't bother checking for degradation most times), with Ordinary clothes costing 1 L, Rich 3, Superlative 5, and Spectacular 7. You don't get a bonus for wearing the clothes you're expected to wear, so if you want to get a bonus, you have to spend extra, with a cost of 1 L per APP bonus; most of the knights in my group right now are ordinary, so they'd have to spend 2 L to get a +1 bonus, but one is a Banneret now, and is Rich, so has to spend at least 4 to get a +1 bonus. You can supplement this with jewelry and other finery, but not only is there a threshold, they only add half their value to APP. So basically, an Ordinary Knight would have to have finery equal to 4L to get a +1 bonus; Rich, 8L in finery, etc. The combined total for their clothes and jewels is capped at their APP, so an average or ugly knight can still only get to a certain level. Now, this does meant that it costs richer knights more money to get bonuses, but I feel like it all kinda works out in the wash, because they have more money to spend on stuff like this. Plus, I include a free set of clothing equal to what their maintenance was this year, as well, so if a Knight who is normally supposed to be Ordinary decided to live as Rich, he automatically gets a set of Rich clothes costing 3 Libra, giving him a +2 bonus, and the Rich knight living as Superlative gets the same bonus, but it's much more likely he has extra money to spend on maintenance than the ordinary knight, since he can cover the difference right from his discretionary fund, while the Ordinary knight needs to have at least gotten 2 extra Libra somewhere or other.
  14. Yeah, basically Book of the Manor has been replaced by Book of the Estate, and it's got family survival tables in it too, so I do recommend it, but you can get by without it if you only have money to get 2. I really enjoy Book of Battle 2, and find it an improvement over the first one. You didn't mention if you have Book of the Entourage, if not, it's pretty good for rules on marriage, wives, squires, and some detail on servants, though a lot of the servant stuff is also presented in Book of the Estate. Books of Warlord and Uther kind of go hand in hand with Estate, there's a lot of good info in them, but unless you're wanting to run the extra 5 years that Book of Uther adds to the GPC timeline, I wouldn't think of them as priorities. Book of Sires is amazing for generating family histories, which is my jam, and possibly my favorite book out of the lot of them, aside from GPC. Book of Feasts is fun, and it's pretty cheap too, if that helps. Book of Knights and Ladies is getting an update soon, but we don't really no how long that will be; as much as I enjoy BoKaL, I'm looking forward to it. Armies has no update, it works just fine with BoB2, and while I'd like to see a revision on it at some point, I don't think it should be a high priority.
  15. Okay, good to know, let me clarify some of my questions. First off, where does the widow physically live? Like, let's say, the knight had 1 manor, 10 Libra, he dies, therefore wife gets 3.5 (which is what Entourage says to round to, though 1/3 of a libra isn't actually that hard to break up). There is also an adult son, he would inherit the manor, but 3.5 of it is the widow's. So he does get to inherit, but he only gets access to 6.5 L of the manor's wealth, with the additional going to his mother. Does she live in the manor house with him? A separate house on the land? Somewhere else entirely? It seems odd to me for her to live in a different house than the manor, especially since she's still contributing somewhat towards the knight, because she still owes a servitium debitum on 1/3 of a knight (my understanding would be that her 1/3 and the son's 2/3 combined would contribute to the knight in question, in this case, the son himself). And if that's the case, the son would only be getting 6.5 Discretionary fund? The way I figured it worked, while the Widow's Portion was technically hers, if she died and had no father to return to, then her liege took her in, and then basically helped him self to her fund, so long as he kept her up. Maybe I have totally the wrong idea here. I already talked over this specific instance on the Discord, I believe; she was an heiress, the PK earned more lands besides, her children are all also his children so no weird stepchildren exceptions, hers and his oldest son will inherit the land and the PK will administer it until the child reaches the age of majority, in which case her lands will be inherited by their son, and he will keep his own lands until he dies, in which case they will also go to his eldest son. I know things might get weird if the eldest child dies, and when, and whether or not he had any children beforehand, but like, he's 10 right now, so that's gonna be a bit.
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