YwainDigsLions Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 In KAP 5.2, it says Coursers are battle-trained, but in BoE it says they are not? Which is true? Also, do Poor Chargers have the same stats as regular Chargers except for the 5d6 damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morien Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, YwainDigsLions said: In KAP 5.2, it says Coursers are battle-trained, but in BoE it says they are not? Which is true? Also, do Poor Chargers have the same stats as regular Chargers except for the 5d6 damage? BotEnt is correct. Otherwise Coursers would be much cheaper and superior to poor chargers in every way. I would allow a battle and hunt trained Courser for double the price, so about the same as a charger: a bit less damage but better DEX, Move and CON. Stat-wise, poor chargers are slightly smaller and weaker than a charger, to explain that drop in damage. I'd probably use courser stats for those (SIZ 30, STR 26), if it ever came up (it hasn't, thus far). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizun Thane Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, YwainDigsLions said: KAP 5.2, it says Coursers are battle-trained, but in BoE it says they are not? Which is true? Coursers are normally not trained for battle (except exceptionnal mounts), but are faster and give a +5 bonus to riding in forests. 1 hour ago, YwainDigsLions said: Also, do Poor Chargers have the same stats as regular Chargers except for the 5d6 damage? I never used stats for poor Chargers, except their 5d6 damage. The suggestion of morien seems good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uqbarian Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Morien said: BotEnt is correct. Otherwise Coursers would be much cheaper and superior to poor chargers in every way. I would allow a battle and hunt trained Courser for double the price, so about the same as a charger: a bit less damage but better DEX, Move and CON. Stat-wise, poor chargers are slightly smaller and weaker than a charger, to explain that drop in damage. I'd probably use courser stats for those (SIZ 30, STR 26), if it ever came up (it hasn't, thus far). Would it be fair to assume that a starting courser is battle-trained, at least (e.g. for the Master of the Hunt pregen in the core book)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morien Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Uqbarian said: Would it be fair to assume that a starting courser is battle-trained, at least (e.g. for the Master of the Hunt pregen in the core book)? I think that would be fair. The price would be the same as for a charger anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I think part of the reason for the confusion in the KAP books is that Greg uses Coruser a bit differently than some others, with the coruser being a hunting horse, where many sources uses it interchangeably with charger, and call a hunting horse a hunter. I've been working on some horse rule that cover some of this and generally Coursers aren't battle trained, they are hunting horses. There are several reasons why. First off not all horses are suited to be war horses or hunting horses, so finding such a horse would be rare, and training one more difficult. Secondly is the training time. Most breeds of horse cannot be ridden regularly until they are about 4 years old, and then the training to be riding horse and warhorse takes up a couple of years. So a typical warhorse is 5-6 years old to start, and training him to be a Courser too, just cuts into his productive years. So it's probably a rarity, only done for horses that are gifted to both roles. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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