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Ruin on Marzeel River


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1 hour ago, SJB said:

On the classic RQ2 William Church map of Dragon Pass there is a ruin symbol where the road from Whitewall to Jansholm crosses the Marzeel River. What is the ruin the symbol represents?

Proportions and locations, particularly in that area, are a bit distorted.  The crossing of the Marzeel is at Smithstone, which is not a ruin. 

But there is a ruined EWF city near the point where the Creek-Stream River and the Marzeel used to meet in the Blackwind Marsh, which would be Jisteel.  (see King of Sartar p.157).  In my view of Jisteel, it is mostly foundations, half-submerged in the swamp.  Given the proximity to the Shadow Plateau, likely home to feral trollkin, crocodiles, giant frogs (like the traskars in Borderlands), occasional newtlings.  Jisteel was an EWF city, so there might be draconic things stirred up with the Dragonrise.

A better view of the region is in the Argan Argar Atlas.

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Thanks. I would never have got that in a month of Sundays. I see what you mean about the classic and modern representations not necessarily matching up. One wonders what guidance Mr. Stafford gave Mr. Church.

(For anyone else watching in black-and-white, Jisteel appears on p. 182 of the 1992 edition of KoS.)

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On 9/11/2021 at 2:05 PM, jajagappa said:

A better view of the region is in the Argan Argar Atlas.

You might also find these helpful: 

https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/websites/facebook/2019-11-jeff-on-facebook/#ib-toc-anchor-7

now

https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/north-esrolia-and-the-shadow-plateau/

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Thank you. Apart from the useful maps, I noted this comment: “Greg and I hated the treatment of the God Learners and the EWF by MRQ2. Hated it passionately.” So EWF ruins seem to have been an issue about which Mr. Stafford felt strongly. He chose to place six ruins on the 1978 map, so I assume they were of particular importance.

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2 hours ago, ajs said:

ANy idea when the link has gone? I'm interested in the maps

I integrated all of Jeff’s posts on Facebook into the site. As you can see from the url, it’s a November 2019 post. So have a search on the site using November 2019 map esrolia. The posts are all tagged. 
 

this one. 
https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/north-esrolia-and-the-shadow-plateau/

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