Fetch Power

[Tyrian Telbenj]

One of my player have a good Shaman with a fetch with a lot of power. Do the power of the fetch count to the skill modifier of the Shaman?

[Shiningbrow]

8 hours ago, Tyrian Telbenj said:

One of my player have a good Shaman with a fetch with a lot of power. Do the power of the fetch count to the skill modifier of the Shaman?

No. Consider that the POW of  the Fetch is in the spirit world, and therefore doesn't affect the physical world. Just as the Fetch's CHA doesn't affect skills either.

[Barto]

3 hours ago, Shiningbrow said:

No. Consider that the POW of  the Fetch is in the spirit world, and therefore doesn't affect the physical world. Just as the Fetch's CHA doesn't affect skills either.

But also the cha affects the physical word for the spirit magic knowledge (increasing the number of spirit spells slots), because it's specified into the manual. And, in the same way, the chaosium errata corrige seems wanting count the pow of the fetch for everything, here https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-16

Tell .."The fetch provides POW and magic points to the shaman. Its magic points are always accessible to the shaman, and its POW is nearly always added to that of the shaman’s (except for POW gain rolls)"

Of course, I'm not assuming that it's correct, but only that it looks like that in the rules 😉

[Scotty]

13 hours ago, Tyrian Telbenj said:

One of my player have a good Shaman with a fetch with a lot of power. Do the power of the fetch count to the skill modifier of the Shaman?

No.

[Tyrian Telbenj]

thx for the answer

[Barto]

On 12/18/2022 at 11:26 AM, Scotty said:

No.

Hi Scotty, 

thank you for the answer. 

What do you think to count the fetch's power only to modify the "Spirit Combat Skill"?

here it looks feasible: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-1

"Question: So this includes POW for Skill Category Modifiers and Spirit Combat?

Answer: Look at the situation the shaman is in and apply the rule.

For example if the shaman is in the Spirit World and the Fetch is occupying or guarding their body, you would not add their POW together. The situation is that they are in separate places.

Likewise if the shaman and fetch are in separate spirit combat, you wouldn’t add them together. If only the shaman was in the spirit combat, and the fetch was present could you do so.

The situation doesn’t arise when calculating Skill Category Modifiers, but would arise in Spirit Combat if the fetch is present."

Thanks,

Barto

 

[Shiningbrow]

On 12/18/2022 at 5:25 PM, Barto said:

But also the cha affects the physical word for the spirit magic knowledge (increasing the number of spirit spells slots), because it's specified into the manual. And, in the same way, the chaosium errata corrige seems wanting count the pow of the fetch for everything, here https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-16

Tell .."The fetch provides POW and magic points to the shaman. Its magic points are always accessible to the shaman, and its POW is nearly always added to that of the shaman’s (except for POW gain rolls)"

Of course, I'm not assuming that it's correct, but only that it looks like that in the rules 😉

Firstly apologies for the very late reply...

Secondly, the Fetch will hold knowledge of spells, that the shaman can access. Not overly dissimilar to allied or bound spirits (whose spell knowledge you can gain and use)... and you wouldn't be adding the CHA of those to the holder of the binding.

Like a bound spirit, one can access the MPs (and spells) of the Fetch as well - and again, it doesn't add to the character's base POW (although, the relationship is different, and thus so are the uses).

And you wouldn't add the Fetch's CHA to the shaman for social skills, because the CHA can't be perceived by others on the material world.

[Barto]

2 hours ago, Shiningbrow said:

Firstly apologies for the very late reply...

Secondly, the Fetch will hold knowledge of spells, that the shaman can access. Not overly dissimilar to allied or bound spirits (whose spell knowledge you can gain and use)... and you wouldn't be adding the CHA of those to the holder of the binding.

Like a bound spirit, one can access the MPs (and spells) of the Fetch as well - and again, it doesn't add to the character's base POW (although, the relationship is different, and thus so are the uses).

And you wouldn't add the Fetch's CHA to the shaman for social skills, because the CHA can't be perceived by others on the material world.

Thank you for the kind reply.

what do you think about to use the fetch Cha only for the"Spirit combat Skill"? like we found here: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-1

Thanks,

Barto

Edited January 26, 2023 by Barto

[Shiningbrow]

1 hour ago, Barto said:

Thank you for the kind reply.

what do you think about to use the fetch Cha only for the"Spirit combat Skill"? like we found here: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-1

Thanks,

Barto

I think... while the shaman and fetch are 'together', then both POW and CHA should be added for these purposes (which will basically be when the shaman is wandering around on the material plane).

When the shaman goes discorporate, then they separate, and thus the POW & CHA are no longer added.

[PhilHibbs]

7 hours ago, Barto said:

what do you think about to use the fetch Cha only for the"Spirit combat Skill"? like we found here: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/home/catalogue/publishers/chaosium/runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-qa-by-chapter/cha4028-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha-chapter-15-shamans/#ib-toc-anchor-1

I think it's an interesting suggestion, and whilst it is in the "official Q&A" I'd treat it as a suggestion rather than a hard ruling. Maybe it will make it into the next printing, I don't know.

I'd probably allow it, if the player states "can my fetch join in the combat, and add its POW to mine for the purposes of skill and damage"? As long as the fetch doesn't do anything else, sure.