Weapon/Shield Damage

[Suttie09]

Can someone please clear this up for me. 

At what point does a shield/parrying weapon take damage to total HP?

If a shield had 10AP and 10HP and the attacker rollers 15 damage. 10 damage is reduced for AP. But does the remaining 5 damage come off the shield HP or go through to the player armour?

Does the shield lose 5 total HP? Or just 1 for the damage doing over its AP?  

Also the same question for the new Roleplaying in Glorantha as I just bough the book and noticed it does have AP on shields. So how would this affect Total HP in combat. 

[PhilHibbs]

2 hours ago, Suttie09 said:

If a shield had 10AP and 10HP...

Weapons and shields don't have both. In RQ 1, 2, and G, they have HP. In RQ3, they have AP. The mechanics are pretty much the same for each though.

[Psullie]

Vostor's example on page 204 (under incapacitating a target) gives a very good run though of how armour and shields work.

Has Phil pointed out, in RQ:G AP & HP for weapons and shields has been simplified to one stat: HP. A successful parry with a weapon or shied will block damage equal to its current HP. So a Medium Should or Broadsword will cancel 12 HP of damage. Any more passes through, in most cases to the Arm. So in your example of 15 damage, the Shield will block 10 damage with the remaining 5 going to the arm, which could then be cancelled by the arm's armour or magic if any. Depending on the severity of the attack, the shield would also take 1 damage (on a normal attack) or 5 damage (on a Special or better attack) thus reducing it's effectiveness.

Edited December 26, 2018 by Psullie
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[Suttie09]

That clears up what I needed thank you. But it raises another question..

So with a successful parry, does the arm always take the remaining damage or the hit location rolled by the attacker?  

Also, at what point does the shield break? When total HP are at 0 or double the total HP? 

 

Guess we've never updated our books for years and play old school rules 

[Kloster]

14 minutes ago, Suttie09 said:

That clears up what I needed thank you. But it raises another question..

So with a successful parry, does the arm always take the remaining damage or the hit location rolled by the attacker?  

Also, at what point does the shield break? When total HP are at 0 or double the total HP? 

 

As we play it, the arm takes damage when parrying with  a shield, but the normal hit location is used if done with a weapon and the shield breaks at 0.

Kloster

[Psullie]

51 minutes ago, Kloster said:

As we play it, the arm takes damage when parrying with  a shield, but the normal hit location is used if done with a weapon and the shield breaks at 0.

Kloster has it right, see page 198, A successful Parry, and p200 Damage to Weapons, weapons can be used at half skill from -1 to -original HPs, so you can use a shied with negative HP but it won't stop any HP. Once a weapon or shield reaches it's negative limit it is irrevocably broken.