jeffjerwin

3 hours ago, Joerg said:

 

Lead-clad hulls in the vicinity of trolls and their sea-troll allies, who can create coinage simply by chewing a bit on the metal? Copper-sheeting sounds more likely, or possibly more exotic solutions. Why not use ham beetle chitin plating? A lot lighter, and you need a lot less lead to get these food leftovers from Shadow Plateau. The Molakka spells warding off bore-worms might be stencilled inside already, or possibly you use a bait bar magically attracting all the nearby bore worms which can be sold in port as a troll delicacy.

 

I am not so sure of this "left-over" concept with trolls, given they can eat anything. Garbage is more an open-air larder that attracts insect snacks. So bartering for beetle-shells might be more expensive, as Argan Argar's people are canny enough the realize the utility of them as dishes, storage devices, hats, coracles, etc.

The ritual is more about transforming one's soul into a troll spirit, as visual appearance is secondary to Darksense... at least as I understand it. It's still gruesome and more often than not it fails and there's a feast instead...

1 hour ago, Roko Joko said:

I thought it was a wind lord mainly because gods have so rarely been depicted directly, but MOB asserted it was Orlanth in a post here last June.  But you know, with heroquesting and heroforming - whatever.

When you are hero forming, you are the god. There is no difference.

Prax and Pavis is a good choice if you don't want to worry about Heortling clan dynamics right away.

14 minutes ago, Yelm's Light said:

Bah.  She's an Earth/fertility priestess.  What do they expect?  Have these people ever seen a Frazetta cover?

I agree with the criticism on the breastplate, though.  First, not many women warriors would be well-endowed enough to need it, and second, it's a target and an identifier for the chauvinists among the opposition who figure a woman would be easy pickin's.

Anyone who thinks Heortling women are easy pickin's is a fool. (Not disagreeing with the idea that chauvinists might behave that way... but...)

I may have to make a parody cover for "RuneQwest" where everyone is a duck.

It would be neat if a future Lunar book could have the opposition advancing toward the viewer too - implicitly facing this very scene.

The mythic quality of Glorantha's physics is the best reason to shut down "realism" experts. I love it.

But I write poetry for fun, so there you are.

The bridges of Kralorela kind of remind me of the roads of New Orleans...

I would say that everyone needs a deep breath of Wind, but Glorantha brings out the Lunatic in everyone who loves it...

But I have a Harmony rune if anyone needs to borrow it.

18 minutes ago, Mankcam said:

This deserves to be the most re-posted image on the web 

It's the most amazing rainbow themed RQ cover since the old Companion!

2 hours ago, GianniVacca said:

Murni the Mouser goes on top of books, as all initiates of the Knowing God are aware.

1 hour ago, Grey said:

Would definitively be interested in that setting.  Would you be including any “Pulp Cthulhu” type additions for a more 3 Musketeers/ Swashbuckling feel (possibly optional), or keeping it very “purist” around the horror and deprivation in the time?

Well, my current draft is more the latter, but I do have a sketch of fencing rules worked out. Perhaps I will (a la Trail) include notes for a "Purist" versus a "Swashbuckling" approach. Swords will still be useless against a Dark Young, I'm afraid...

6 hours ago, M Helsdon said:

The one Lunar goddess adopted by Argrath mentioned in the sources, is the Six Armed Goddess of Saird, which is Yara Aranis. Perhaps her anti-nomad aspect.

My memory isn't what it used to be... That's who I was thinking of...

4 minutes ago, jajagappa said:

Presumably some of the surplus is the result of Hon-eel's introduction of maize into the culture as well.  What happens when Argrath (or Mularik) take over here?  Does Hon-eel's cult remain?  And if she is ousted, are the other earth goddesses able to make up that loss?  

I've always found it interesting that at one point Argrath allies with Hwarin Dalthippa... I could be mistaken, but wasn't Hon-eel primarily interested in being a maize goddess rather than an agent of the Empire...? when one is actually apotheosized, of course, as long as the correct actions and sacrifices are made, usually you impart your blessing.

I have an unfinished manuscript of 17th century Paris (detailed at length) and notes on the Mythos - i.e., the Cultes des Ghoules, Borellius, Averoigne, the Affair of the Poisons (and the Three Musketeers) I had in my files. I'm planning on finishing it up for the Repository.

(I do have the new Reign of Terror book, of course)

Some questions: Does this spark any interest?

Also if you want to share any useful ideas or suggestions, and are content with a thank you in the pdf, feel free to message me or post here...

I like it a lot, particularly the S. It should also be visible in a busy bookshelf in a game store.

34 minutes ago, scott-martin said:

This is most likely Kena Hill, described in 10000 Goddesses.

OK! So many spelling variances in the canon...

And Kena Hill appears in the map of Nochet. I guess we have identified Kodig's palace. It was the sacred hill of Imarja too...

There is a place in the maps of the God-time in the Glorantha Sourcebook south of Kero Fin in the Earth tribe's region called Keno Hill, apparently a ziggurat. I can't find any other references to it. Any ideas?

I suspect it is connected with Nochet, as it seems to be identical with Kodig's Palace in later maps. However Ernalda's Palace is different, and it looks like the Grandmothers localized a fair bit of more far-flung locations into Esrolia for purposes of storytelling/magical geography.

In the Greater Darkness/Age of Chaos it is unnamed but still present and between the Unity Battle and Kero Fin.

Who is Lagavar's mother?

1 hour ago, jajagappa said:

Probably because of the Catseye spell, cats in my Imther got associated with the Hearthmother specifically and Lightfore (called Lagavar in my stories).  That's also predates the association of Yelmalio with Lightfore.  But Lagavar and the Hearthmother were lovers and when Lagavar went off on the Lightbringer's Quest, he sent the cats to keep the Hearthmother company.

Doesn't preclude Orlantio from having some animal guise, but I never gave him one.  I think he was more hidden and illusory like the wind.

Interesting; that means that among the Imtherians (what's the proper adjective here?) the principal Lightbringer is associated with cats, and among the Heortlings, the same thing is true, though the identity of the leader is different. There is fire inside Yinkin, of course, to make the gleaming eyes (and reflect that cats run warmer than we do) - even though the Bad Dogs stole much of it. Of course, Kero Fin, his mother, corresponds to Hearthmother, more or less (Orlanth's last hearth was atop her), and cats love hearths. Elmal was of course Orlanth's hearth-keeper. All these parallels are of course only partly coincidence. I think that when Orlanth encountered Yelmalio/Antirius at the Hill of Gold, he was also changed, like his foe/now friend. He certainly matured into a more responsible chieftain. Just as a part of Orlantio went with Lagavar/Lightfore afterwards and aided him during the Quest.

You also make Orak (Zorak Zoran, the Hellwind) the brother of Orlanth, and I am inclined to think [Z]orak / Zolan Zubar was in fact associated with the "Wind from Below" and might be the son of Umath and Subere (I also think he was also/once a bear god, but that's a different matter).

You know, Orlantio reminds me a little of Orlanth's little brother, Yinkin - both Orlanth and Yinkin partake of Niskis the Lover, after all. You don't mention an animal aspect like Yurmalio's fox-guise but cat-god and fox-god kinda go together, in a sort of fairy-tale-ish way.

So Yurmalio is a blend of Yelmalio and Eurmal, eh? Eurmal is ultimately the traitor; he helped bring back the Sun but also let go of the Net when Entropy was consumed by Grandmother Spider, so that not all of chaos was eaten. & of course Yelmalio is himself especially close to Nysalor.

I've always felt - viz my hallucinations on the Light/Life-bringers' Quest in other posts - that Eurmal was Yelmalio/Elmal's Other (steadfast fire and fire stealer, loyal to death and disloyal forever, both strangers taken in by Orlanth the hospitable), anyway. I suspect that might be a Orlantio secret. And Eurmal is my fox-god too!

2 minutes ago, soltakss said:

Except where they can.

Trolls visit the Cursing of Kyger Litor on a regular basis. The Nights of Horror happened within Time and had HeroQuestors from other periods interacting with the event.

 

I think that when an event is powerful enough to make a mark on God Time, it can be visited on a HeroQuest, as it is now part of God Time.

Even a minor Hero can make a slight mark and his/her followers can HeroQuest to that point, as can enemies.

 

There is also the matter than when a hero within Time enters the God Time they actually are present. It isn't a hallucination: Harmast is there, eating at the board below Orlanth. A part of Harmast is now eternally a part of Orlanth's band. Thus any hero that entered the God-Time and made a mark - as soltakss mentions above - can now be sought there as well as within Time, if they are still extant there. Also, the dead go to the God-Time, in as much as the Underworld overlaps with both worlds and the highest and lowest fates of the deceased are clearly linked to the homes of deities and great spirits...

Kyger Litor and the Gods at Castle Blue (for example) are always of the "God-time" so when the compromise is broken in that moment that moment itself can be said to enter into the God-time... Otherwise the wounding of KL would have had no effect and the LG's victory would not have been complete. Of course this means that by following the path of the god one can find your way into Historic moments, if the God somehow was there - chiefly through the Compromise being breached. Or this is my notion of it anyway.

Reminds me of the Lunar masks in Pavis: GtA: http://www.glorantha.com/docs/dara-happan-depictions-orlanthi-gods-2/

Handsome Grinner is obviously part of the same Pelorian tradition as Orlantio.

I'm been taking notes for a planned campaign with my group this summer, tentatively called "Refugee Quest", in which some surviving Maboder escape the Telmori and Jonas Wulf to reach Hendrikiland (where my daughter's game is taking place). It would start in 1605-7. It combines the community-based RPing of the standard clan game with desperation and exploration.

The old Book of the Red Cow (precursor to the canon Red Cow campaign) is of course very useful for filling in the Split Waters clan, and there are some snippets about the Black Oak clan in "The Road of Kings".

I think they're Axe Orlanthi with some Old Hendriki influence.

Now the Maboder are noted as a matrilineal Triatry. They were ruled by queens until 1601. Going over the history in The Coming Storm, they were seemingly primarily derived from the Brustings and two clans of the Torkani - the Godori and the Lissendings, who were harried to near extinction by the Telmori in the 1460s. The BotRC writeup of the Split Waters clan states they split off from the Volsaxi, and I'm inclined to link them and to a lesser extent the Black Oak to Esrolian influence among the Hendriki via wives from the Adjusted Lands. I'd also connect them to the Earth clans who later formed the Curtali in the vicinity of the Dreven River. The Six Stones clan have a male chieftain mentioned and an exogamous marriage in the book (tCS), so I'd guess they and their Brusting ancestors were not as Earth and Darkness aligned as the others. They also have horses, and all three grow grain rather than raise many cattle. I take the Torkani as including originally Kitori clans, and they clearly played a role in the foundation of the new tribe, though the Maboder don't worship Argan Argar or the Dark Woman, favoring Ernalda and even Aldrya.

The basic notion is that some of the surviving families and lone stragglers fled Sartar rather than be enslaved by the Wulflanders. Prax is about to be invaded by Sor-Eel (1608) - most likely via the Pavis Road outside Stonegate - and may have even camped in Wulfsland - so it's a bad choice, while the clans' distant ancestry among the Hendriki and the Kitori (!) offers them better chance at succor than the hostile Quivini, who blame the Maboder for not mustering in 1602. Some slaves might have gone with the Lunars to Prax, so there's an opportunity to look for kin there (and run all the old Prax scenarios) after the oldsters and children are safe in Volsaxar.

Any Comments / Suggestions ? Anything I've overlooked?