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@coffeemancer You are is wonderful.

I saw the Firemane and went-- did we make Ember from Elfquest a human and give a mace? Cause that's who she reminds me of.

This does make me wonder if new houses form and fall with some regularity... Young women knowing that in time theyll be Grand mothers but also acknowledge that they will have to be different. You can only go so far working the same hide of land.

What gets a house Enfranchised?

Does anyone know of  Runequest Character Generator, maybe as a stand alone program for PC/Mac?

Many rpgs have them now but it'd be nice to have a program to make creating & updating easier.

or something that you can walk a newbie through.

Interesting.

I do think Ernalda should be more like Orlanthi in that reguard she does play the part of "archetypical good wife" and that is her lot in life

Excellent points.

On 1/25/2020 at 7:50 PM, Oracle said:

In fact I did not yet participate in a real excessive combat situation in @jajagappa Runequest thread on RPGGEEK, especially not in the one mentioned above, but I do not see too many issues here. As already mentioned you use the dice tool several times at once for getting the weapon or spell dice roll result and the hit location and then you wait for the counter rolls of the GM and his interpretation of the results. Yes, it will take longer than in a real life game, but that's the case with everything else too. So you're combat will run in very slow motion, but this has its merits too. It's like your daily cliffhanger ... uuhh, what will happen now? Do I hit the enemy, and will he go down or not? For me, that raises the tension.

But I know, these days, where you can see a whole season of a TV show, people are not really trained in this kind of patience ... 😉
Do you remember the Star Trek season finale of TNG, when Picard was assimilated by the Borg?

End of Season. Continued half a year later ...
These days the kids wouldn't be able to endure that ...

But back to the OP.
From my perspective, combat is not more difficult than using other skills in a PbF game. You just have to use the dice tool more often in one step, but otherwise no difference. I do not see, that you have to do more copy and paste than for other skills.

But I may be the wrong one to ask. I've always preferred tag using text formatters like TeX over WYSIWYG text editors ...

 

For me so much of the stuff I Theater of the mind.

So i prefer to write, narrative as it can give you the feeling of a TV show in some measures, but you can also like things like images or  music.

Discord and Roll20 can be used for Dice rolls and character sheet holding.

10 hours ago, Bohemond said:

I was thinking about Ernalda myths today and realized something that's bugged me about the way Ernalda has been treated since Hero Wars. Orlanth is (and has always been presented as) a god who learns and grows. He kills the Emperor and later realizes that was a bad idea, so he goes and fixes it. He doesn't know what to do, so he asks Ernalda and tells him. He gets low-key manipulated by Ernalda periodically (she gets him to form the Storm Tribe, for example). So his stories show him changing and becoming wiser over time. 

In contrast, Ernalda doesn't really seem to change and grow. She's just always wise. She accomplishes things, but never learns anything because she already knows it. So her myths are kinda boring. She never gets any character development. It's an example of the unrealistic expectations men often have about women. She doesn't offer any sort of model for women who are imperfect in any way. So she's sort of the grown-up in a relationship with a kind of Storm Tribe bro that she needs to drag into maturity. 

If Orlanth and Ernalda are equals, shouldn't he occasionally be playing the role of guide and teacher for her? Shouldn't she have problems she needs to puzzle out? 

Great points. Maybe it's the whole, wise earth goddess trope at work?

On 1/26/2020 at 12:41 PM, soltakss said:

Yes, of course, they are living, after all.

I have them mating with Elves and producing a seed that is planted.

Alternatively, a dryad could just spontaneously appear in a tree, in effect awakening the tree.

Probably just a Lhankor Mhy Temple Guardian spirit.

Perhaps the wyter just takes the form of the library itself, or is just a random collection of books, or a face appearing in a book, or a ghostly librarian, or a ghostly orangutan.

 

Now I am just imagining Won tzi Tong from ATLA (yes the library owl spirit)  as the Wyter of the Jonstown Library.

I think that is the only answer.

26 minutes ago, Bill the barbarian said:

And here we are with the standard situation, way to many players and no one stepping up to run a game. One person who might run if he had the right conditions and players but no one is being picky. Everyone is just saying, I will play, oh what to do?

I mean i could try. I have never run a game. And it'd probably a mix using RQG, with more of a Red Cow flavor... But i have never done this before...

Is there still space?

I think Google docs/Discord could do all of this honestly.

Are minotaurs only male? Do they speak cow? Can they communicTe with Bovine Breathren like Storm bulls?

I love this topic. 

A very wide spread curse. Perhaps.

So if an Emperor were to have daughters and only daughters, and those daughters were to have only daughtera until generation 4. Does the system come apart?

23 minutes ago, Tindalos said:

Of course the Ten Tests seem to be different for each Emperor. (Murharzarm has ten listed, the Dragon Sun's mentioned as undertaking tests but the ones mentioned are different, and Magnificus invites doubters to name tests for him) so their level of sexism probably depends on the climate.

Thanks to the Lunar changes, a female mask or different Emperor who was female, could presumably find the tests more suited to them.

The Dara Happans would gripe and moan, but in the end, they'd probably have to accept it until they could find a loophole.

Until they could find a loophole? Wow that's impressive mental gymnastics. but I like it. I suppose Jar-eel is pretty damn close.

I did look at the Ten Tests, they're horribly sexist.

But ultimately a Woman, could TAKE the tests and pass them and put the  Darra Happans in a quandry?

So if the MoonSon is simply a Mask, why has the emperor never been female, if anyone can be chosen?

Also I know the Lunar Imperial Handbooks exist, but this all so interesting we need a new 'interior Lunar book' or two, to see what the Empire is like, from the inside, the culture and cults and expectations.

So how does this effect Women in the Glorantha, in a way it's possible for Females to embrace with Water fluidity, but since Women are 'normally' Earth Rune affliated does this change the game some how? (I still like RQG's approach that everyone has 'effectively most of the runes'.

It might like you Float on low lying clouds or walk on them (or maybe scoot on them on your belly. So to anyone on the ground it looks like a cloud drifting by?

Cloudsheep wool is it like a cloud? Does it hold colorwell? I assume that because the sheep are a heroquested species... Their wool might magical? That alone make it valuable.

Come to think of it, Ernalda's and any Earth Goddess worship would dramatically change if we're talking about Hsunchen, from what I am understanding. These people are closer to the Earth and it seems their religion and  style of worship would be very different from the Orlanthi.

But I agree a thread we can weave together for the Hsunchen/Hykimi ect might be good. (Might be another book in the making)

@scott-martin I barely understood a word of this but it presents some interesting ideas. Are you positing that  the Hsunchen societies are part of a forgotten asnd down trodden culture that has simply been oppressed?

What if some Orlanthi were to  get comfortable living away from the Sartar and try and encorporate  these animal conciseness gods into the Storm Pantheon as kin and kith of Yinkin ( which seems to be  the easiest way to do it).

3 hours ago, Joerg said:

But to get back to women (and other issues of gender) in Glorantha: there are four biological sexes or plumbing variations in Glorantha, male plumbing (yes/no) and female plumbing (yes/no), and where both answers are yes, there are people able to manifest one or the other plumbing at a time, and those who have both all the time. This  sums up the sexes of Man-rune creatures.

When it comes to gender, to expressing these sexual roles through behavior and culture, I wonder whether the Hsunchen make gender that important to their lifestyle. Women bear children, men don't, but do they have much of a sex-based difference in job descriptions otherwise?

There will be an additional (and probably stronger) influence of sex-specific behavior in their animal totem to their specific cultures, which might re-inforce some stronger division of labor and behavior, making men more likely to be warriors as that often resembles their animal totems' mating behavior.

Any thoughts on this?

So the hsunchen are animal people? Or people who shape shift into animals?  Reguardless, this  an itneresting point,  are there only a few types of hsunchen? Are there Lion hsunchen who's females are myriad but have only a few males? ( which in reality for human people is /bad/ way to go about procreation.)

Do the Hsunchen tweak their totemic animals life style to hit human models?

So if ones clan's ancestors kept non-free folk, and someone married into that clan, that's a cause of culture conflict, if they now have to adjust to that idea that keep people  is acceptable.
But if its only one event that informs this choice, what keeps a clan-off shoot from saying: We will no longer do this?

17 hours ago, Joerg said:

These questions came to me while responding to "Women in Glorantha".

 

How do minotaurs procreate?

All the minotaurs we find as sample characters or NPCs are male. They appear to be human-compatible (see Morak, Noralayeep's little brother), but their normal bovine-headed shape may result from them humping cows.

From the herder's perspective, a cow giving birth to a minotaur is the loss of a bull calf but the blessing of the bull god for this cow's future offspring, so not really a bad thing. The cow's milk will be available to the herder, too.

Intercourse with beastmen is at best mildly scandalous - like the story of Yoristina's attraction to a centaur.

Wait on that last part? What? She was attracted to a centaur (Ooh the Tula gossip if that got out).

34 minutes ago, scott-martin said:

Resistance is now Greco-Bactrian or Indo-Hellenic, citizen. Kindly report to Slon for reprocessing.

I always thought Minotaur (WF 12) preserved the traces of a formerly viable cult that degenerated into a monster type. He looks a lot like the Bison Founder counter so this might have once been a ritual status that people across the bull belt could incarnate under the right conditions . . . maybe by mastering the Battle Rage / Eternal Battle, weeping and sleeping it off to digest the insight. (In this scenario we would expect to find at least the potential for Beast Folk mirroring the other extant Founders.)

Founders mate with Protectresses so I would expect to see baby minotaurs emerge from a cow, sort of a gentle country veterinarian scenario but the calf you reach in there to turn punches you in the hand. The cow's owner then has some complicated choices to make but in minotaur regions there's probably a traditional understanding where you leave babies on a rock or something and the tribe comes to claim them. Maybe the baby remembers you fondly and you can be friends years from now. Like you say it's also a compliment to your cow.

I don't see minotaurs pursuing human women but it's a big world.

 

 I don't know how this works in GLorantha, but honestly I kind of like the idea of a cow dropping a mintaur calf and the owner of the cow going :Oh my... a mintotaur got in with them again, puts a ribbon the youngster and heads to BullHead hill, where there are mintaur centries who park themselves there in shifts and watch for the per-arranged sign, to pick up the youngster.

Unless the cow's owner keep him and uses him as a excellent field hand? ( I assume Glornatha Minortaurs are intelligent)