Godweyn Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Hello everyone. Well like the title say, There is a map for Two Ridge Fort ? That's the new stop of my adventurers and their "plan" to resolve diplomatic disputes between tribes. If i can, i like to use the original maps, if there is one, instead of choosing to create one from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Not that I know of but you could use the round fort part of this fan map of Jonstown (from https://web.archive.org/web/20061030061429/http://www.heroquest-rpg.com/support/fan/jonstown.html) or any small fort: https://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/300704/details/pen-y-bannau-hillfort 4 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 You mean like this? 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 oh man, all this little hints are making me eager to have this map, the hype it's real, now it's a must. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godweyn Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jeff said: You mean like this? Wow that really helps to see the details of the surroundings, but I was referring to something like what David Scott said. The fort itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Godweyn said: Wow that really helps to see the details of the surroundings, but I was referring to something like what David Scott said. The fort itself. There is no official map of the fort itself. But the site is perhaps more interesting than the fort! Here's the writeup: Two Ridge Fort (hill fort): This ancient fortress was fashioned atop a steep-ridged butte at the end of the Gejay Hills, and includes farms and pastures. This is the political and religious center of the Malani Tribe, and has temples to Orlanth and Humakt. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 That's a beautiful map! I like a lot the balance between the graphic "simplicity" and the quantity of information it conveys. I notice a small point that bothers me slightly as my own Arfritha Vale sourcebook is now 99% ready to hit the JC: I gathered from previous publications, for instance TCS, that the Frithan territory was on the East (or right) bank of the Boranini, while this map put their main settlement on the West (or left) bank. Obviously, YGMV and all that kind of thing and TCS is not canonical for RQG, but I would like to know if, beyond that, this point mirrors an in-game, historical evolution, something like an extension of Frithan territory or a migration, for instance the clan joining the Malani, or something like that? Could you enlighten me? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Minlister said: That's a beautiful map! I like a lot the balance between the graphic "simplicity" and the quantity of information it conveys. I notice a small point that bothers me slightly as my own Arfritha Vale sourcebook is now 99% ready to hit the JC: I gathered from previous publications, for instance TCS, that the Frithan territory was on the East (or right) bank of the Boranini, while this map put their main settlement on the West (or left) bank. Obviously, YGMV and all that kind of thing and TCS is not canonical for RQG, but I would like to know if, beyond that, this point mirrors an in-game, historical evolution, something like an extension of Frithan territory or a migration, for instance the clan joining the Malani, or something like that? Could you enlighten me? Thanks! It represents the map in TCS getting a few details wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Sorry, my English is missing a nuance here. The "getting" is linked to "it" or to "the map in TCS"? Without comma after TCS I would go for the second solution but punctuation rule differ in French and English. No irony or whatever, I just want to be sure. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Given @Jeff's descripiton: 16 hours ago, Jeff said: This ancient fortress was fashioned atop a steep-ridged butte at the end of the Gejay Hills I'd go with Pen y Bannau hill fort https://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/300704/details/pen-y-bannau-hillfort https://coflein.gov.uk/en/archive/6497597/details/504 2 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Minlister said: Sorry, my English is missing a nuance here. The "getting" is linked to "it" or to "the map in TCS"? Without comma after TCS I would go for the second solution but punctuation rule differ in French and English. No irony or whatever, I just want to be sure. Thanks! The map in TCS has a few errors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Thanks a lot!! I had the same problem with Famous Bell which is on the West bank in TCS and on the East bank on the GM Screen Pack maps. A pity for my sourcebook, where the Frithan are still on the East bank, but it is a very minor issue. @David Scott I actually used Pen y Bannau hill fort the blue-print for Famous Bell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 2:36 AM, David Scott said: Given @Jeff's descripiton: I'd go with Pen y Bannau hill fort https://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/300704/details/pen-y-bannau-hillfort https://coflein.gov.uk/en/archive/6497597/details/504 I think the idea is there, but the upper plateau area needs to be MUCH larger, to match what Jeff said: On 9/20/2020 at 10:07 AM, Jeff said: Two Ridge Fort (hill fort): This ancient fortress was fashioned atop a steep-ridged butte at the end of the Gejay Hills, and includes farms and pastures. This is the political and religious center of the Malani Tribe, and has temples to Orlanth and Humakt. ... "includes farms" (plural) "and pastures" (plural) ... That's a -LOT- of land (much more than shown above, at Pen y Bannau). Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 So more along those lines? Still no farms and pastures, but I don't think we will find a strict equivalent, or maybe something akin to the Avar's ring, but I don't know any archaeological reconstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 The plateau Two Ridge sits atop is some 6 to 8 kilometres long. Think more Mesa Verde, Table Mountain, or the Nor-Westers. Western Sartar has a lot of mesa and butte geography, more like out of the American West or South Africa. The Ambas of Ethiopa might make better reference points. Two Ridge, Starfire Ridges, and the Pegasus Plateau are all part of a rugged landscape that would make Western Sartar a really amazing place to look at. With redwood groves in Tarndisi's Grove, and the high snow-covered peaks of the Quivin Mountains. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Thanks Jeff! So something more akin to Masada (see below)? In a greener setting and with a different architectural style, obviously. Personally, because of the Two Ridges I had envisioned it more like Constantine in Algeria (see old map, cutting out the modern extension but extending the settled area to the Lazaret and hospital beyond the huge chasm). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 The mesa of Masada is quite small about 0.5 km by 0.3 km. And the plateau can be easily accessed from the east and west sides - it is the north and south that end in cliffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minlister Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Ah ok, I thought it was larger than that. But I confess I don't follow you on the easy access part, or were you talking about Two Ridges being easily accessed from east and west sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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