mfbrandi Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: The PC with the Halfbird's eye will be looking into another plane, will need a patch over that eye for sure. Sounds a bit Corum. Just needs the claw of the Halfbird to do a bit of summoning? 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, mfbrandi said: Corum What's that, link? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 11 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: Wait a minute, isn't Androgeus the mother of Yellow Bear? Unless she was its father? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Erol of Backford said: What's that, link? Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corum_Jhaelen_Irsei A character by Michael Moorcock, had his own BRP game for a while. Non-Gloranthan. 2 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Erol of Backford said: What's that, link? Sorry AFK. Just as Jörg said. The thing about such gifts is that the original owner may someday reclaim them. When you heal the Halfbird, the eye will pop right out of the PC’s face and go “home”, right? (Principle of the conservation of magical items or something.) Spoiler And Haberfield’s Arioch definitely looks Gloranthan: 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 8 hours ago, jajagappa said: Unless she was its father? I read mother so I'll stick with that. 6 hours ago, mfbrandi said: the eye will pop right out of the PC’s face and go “home”, right? Well not really as the PC has given their eye to the Halfbrid to help heal it and to help both of them be bonded, kind of like apprentice bonding, giving a gift... of course one would question that isn't the PC the apprentice but the Halfbird becomes the PC's Allied Spirit and or Familiar? It would be interesting either way. 9 hours ago, mfbrandi said: Sounds a bit Corum. The first thing I thought of was the Eye and Hand of Vecna... why I recalled that instantly from when I was 13-14 means it must have been something that must have been very impactful in our game at the time!? What it was I don't know but from Stranger Tunings must be similar to them fighting a Demogorgon? This could be really fun, especially if the PC's don't know what will happen. http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:eye-and-hand-of-vecna#:~:text=The Eye of Vecna and,artifact into the empty socket. I just read what may have caused the trama when I was a child: Each time you cast a spell from the eye, there is a 5 percent chance that Vecna tears your soul from your body, devours it, and then takes control of the body like a puppet. If that happens, you become an NPC under the DM's control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Erol of Backford said: I just read what may have caused the trama when I was a child: Each time you cast a spell from the eye, there is a 5 percent chance that Vecna tears your soul from your body, devours it, and then takes control of the body like a puppet. Such a grisly fate can be avoided by using the eye as it was originally intended - by wearing Vecna's head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, Erol of Backford said: I read mother so I'll stick with that. It's ambiguous of course! As the text in the Guide (and originally in WBRM) notes (p.642): "During the God Time, he mothered five children and fathered four, and managed to save thousands of mortals from Death. Her children are too many to name, but five are well-known: The Preserver, the Twisted Horse, Goldtooth, Wily Joker, and Yellow Bear. The agonies which they inflicted upon mortals since the Dawn are hideous and innumerable." So, you might find some stories that say she fathered Yellow Bear or that he mothered Yellow Bear. Who was there in the God-time to say? Or remembers now? (And from a standpoint in 1600, does it matter? Unlikely.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jajagappa said: Her children are too many to name, but five are well-known: The Preserver, the Twisted Horse, Goldtooth, Wily Joker, and Yellow Bear. You are correct that in 1600 it doesn't matter but if they have the Halfbird's eye in there head and are an allied spirit of the Halfbird but were a grandchild of the Yellow Bear it would be like time traveling to see grandmother or something like that, wait it'd only be via the eye some like Facetime but with a eye so Eyetime? Weird. Edited November 2, 2023 by Erol of Backford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 56 minutes ago, jajagappa said: So, you might find some stories that say she fathered Yellow Bear or that he mothered Yellow Bear. If Androgeus is self-fertile, possibly both. Then everybody is happy, right? 😉 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 Again I'll stick with mother-bear... posted in another thread but if this is where Mr. Thumbless meets the Haldbird it may be related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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