Why are the trolls so dirty and slovenly?

[French Desperate WindChild]

5 hours ago, mfbrandi said:

Except that it is OK for a player to be more “enlightened” (even though most uz hate the expression) than their human character.

My point was there is no issue to play a human without knowing the troll perspective. Of course real people (not all players, not only players)can be interested (and  I am) to know trolls perspective. But that is not to play, just because I love this world.

[Shiningbrow]

18 hours ago, mfbrandi said:

Except that it is OK for a player to be more “enlightened” (even though most uz hate the expression) than their human character.

"Endarkened"???

[metcalph]

31 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said:

"Endarkened"???

Benightened.

[svensson]

On 11/6/2023 at 10:06 AM, French Desperate WindChild said:

My point was there is no issue to play a human without knowing the troll perspective. Of course real people (not all players, not only players)can be interested (and  I am) to know trolls perspective. But that is not to play, just because I love this world.

You can infer an awful lot from the race and cultural descriptions, but at the end of the day you'll always bring your perspective and emphases to a character of another race.

Consider that Tolkien never wrote anything about hobbits that included the 'vicious prankster' or the 'laughing backstabber' tropes. The Pathfinder goblins [funny psychos with explosives] are nothing like the existential threat of a 'goblin horde from Mt. Gundabad'. That was all inserted into the stereotype by players in multiple RPG games and the course of 40 years.

You're always gonna add your viewpoint to a character, and most of the time that won't be the same as another player at the table.

[French Desperate WindChild]

6 hours ago, svensson said:

You can infer an awful lot from the race and cultural descriptions, but at the end of the day you'll always bring your perspective and emphases to a character of another race.

Consider that Tolkien never wrote anything about hobbits that included the 'vicious prankster' or the 'laughing backstabber' tropes. The Pathfinder goblins [funny psychos with explosives] are nothing like the existential threat of a 'goblin horde from Mt. Gundabad'. That was all inserted into the stereotype by players in multiple RPG games and the course of 40 years.

You're always gonna add your viewpoint to a character, and most of the time that won't be the same as another player at the table.

of course I agree 🙂

however there is a difference between knowing nothing then apply 100% of your own idea (well "trolls are just bad uggly violent human eater,..." after all why not - even if it far from my idea) and knowing 30% - 60% 80 % and "just" apply the bias or imagination or preconception you may have.