jeffjerwin

It represents the earlier function of the Naverian-Pelandan male kingship/sun god as guardian of the Earth and sacrificial/returning consort of the White Moon, I think. So yes?

ZZ in recent imagery is interestingly always three-eyed...

It's hard to say, but the likeliest time frame for it was during the Greater Darkness, when food became scarcer. I'd note that Donandar and Skovara/i came into conflict with ogres during that period, and my supposition is that Dragon Pass was the scene of this - Skovara and Skovari being associated with the Ernalda cult and thus presumably in the area...

Well, the Feldichi lived in Dorastor...

I'm on the side of 2. in Jeff's discussion. There is a fourth possibility: Only devotees (RP/RLs) are potentially privy to the 'unity of the Little Sun' and the wider cultural distinctions are more important to the laity or even possibly the initiates. This might include such stuff as 'secret names'. The main distinction between Glorantha and our world here is that in the former the priests can actually ask their god. Only a really vague answer or a really fouled up divination is likely to deceive in a profound way... Fortunately, I'm not planning on running a game centred on the Far Point, where this sort of question changes from academic to somewhat important. I have a question. What was the name (or names) used for the Little Sun at Goldedge and in Tarsh before the 1490s? This would logically be the same name used in Alda-chur, of course.

Just reviving this thread to suggest, after re-reading various sources and examining the map in Six Ages, that the Aramites are connected to the Infithan/Infithetelli, who were descended from Infithe, twin sister of Jorganos, and her husband Proscriptor the Cannibal. The northern part of the Infithetelli, of course, was conquered into the Empire of Light, and the Aramites were distinct by the Dawn, so, if so, they separated in the Greater Darkness. However in the Vingkotling age the tribe is said to have inhabited "Northern Tarsh" and the "Upper Black Eel" - Tarshford down to Slavewall or thereabouts. The Aramites never became Heortlings, of course, and the Stravuli are found - descendants of the Jorganostelli of the Upper Oslir - on the south bank of the Black Eel around Too Far by the Dawn. It will be interesting to see if Aram's people appear in later iterations of the game.

King Penda of the Mercians was kind of a hold-out, really. His death in battle allowed for the conversion of the Midlands. All descents from Wodan are contrived, though the Skjoldungs and Ynglings have at least the weight of tradition. So actual pagan belief among the Anglo-Saxons had only a frayed connection to descent claims. In Glorantha, the only plausible way to make artificial descent claims that will stand up to a divination is by hero questing or getting a relevant ancestor/ghost to claim the person as a descendant (as with a wyter).

Ian Thomson's last gaming writing credit was in 2011 with the Footsteps of Fools series for Dying Earth, with Pelgrane: http://site.pelgranepress.com/index.php/in-the-footsteps-of-fools/. Edit: if anyone knows how to find him... it would be Robin Laws, who, coincidentally or not, is working on the new Pavis book.

In medieval France, it was not unknown for sons and daughters of high-ranking women to take their mother's surname (or fief name) and coat of arms in lieu of their father's. There are also some examples in English history (and Welsh/Cymric).

In France, inheritances from the mother were often assigned to younger sons or elder daughters. A female knight (and there were some similar roles - a 'chevaleresse' or 'chevalière' in France was a woman who either was married to someone with a knight's fee or held one in her own right. A woman possessing a noble title or fief in her own right in 12th century England or France would transmit them to her heirs of her body, not any stepchildren or a widower (though if she has minor children, the widower would be the guardian of these lands). A female knight would have the same inheritance rights and privileges as man. This is a major plot point in the romance of Silence, which is semi-Arthurian, and features a woman disguised as a man who becomes a knight. Glory would impact the partner to a limited degree, like a wife bestows Glory for her marriage to her new husband. In my view, female knights ought to be rare and singular (and maybe there is a PC plus a woman knight who acts as a mentor...) and/or a small and exclusive order linked to specific cultures, but they definite have a niche in Arthurian romance: Grisandole, Silence, and Britomart are very memorable characters.

Regarding the name Iffinbix, it may be a Old Pavic distortion of another name. Yojarl sounds a bit Pentan to me... Or it could be Compare Jolanty, the name of SS's god, which is Zho Lath Ey in Kralorelan. Names can get really distorted.

Timeline-wise he's active - and note his 'third eye' during Sheng Seleris' domination of Prax.

Like Helios versus Apollo?

That's interesting. Note that in (some of) the God Learner/Heortling texts, AFAIK, Yelm/the Emperor was an appointee of the Celestial Court, and that is where he ruled, in the Perfect Palace. If so, Yamsur was the original emperor... Yamsur seems to have ruled the White Elves of the Sun, the Golden People, and the Sky Spears. White Elves also suggests the Spike. Compare Harono to Yamsur; Harono also ruled over central regions and Ernaldela.

It's kind of like using Madame. The modern usage is a polite honorific.

The female equivalent of Khan is Khatun or Khanum.

Back to work on this. Currently gathering info on Richelieu and Mazarin's occult libraries...

The Redlands bit is from Borderlands and Pavis books. He is linked to Kostaddi - his ancestors came from there according to the Pavis HQ book. Rone is on the semi-canon HW map of the Lunar Empire Wesley Quadros made, in Kostaddi. The wiki says he tried to stem a rebellion in Kostaddi c.1610 but I'm not sure of the precise source; perhaps an interpolation from the Borderlands info.

He's from Kostaddi, transplanted to the Redlands, transplanted to Prax.

The Lunar Empire does not have noble titles but it has elite offices, such as Sultan, Satrap, Overseer, ranging all the way up to Lunar Immortal and Egi. In practice, the extended family of these people has noble social status. The Dara Happans may have had titles and still use them (i.e., Duke Raus got his somewhere, Count Sor-Eel, etc.), but nobility is a quality associated with families descended from an Emperor. They don't consider non-Imperial descended Lunars to be nobility, merely high-ranking bureaucrats. The Holy Country had Count and Duke as military titles/positions.

Depends. There's probably a Two Fer One Special at the market. And that strange horn is perhaps the Toot Far.

It's precisely what occurs in many Arthurian romances: the Triple Quest, all the variants of Lynette and Gareth (there's a half-dozen or so), and several episodes in the Grail romances. Usually a 'lady' or handmaiden with a knight, but sometimes a magician or enchantress.

There, are, of course, a multitude of Yelm's sons active in Six Ages, in the Lesser Darkness: Elmal Little Yelm Demon Sun (Shargash) Ghost Sun Eggshell Sun Cold Sun (Yonesh) Unless this is an abstraction of some sort of psychological fragmentation/Yelm's six souls (note there are six here) - then the game seems to represent the sons of Yelm as numerous and differentiates between Elmal and Little Yelm (Yelmalio). Antirius might be a job, rather than a discrete identity, too.

Pretty sure a bison is slightly bigger: 10-12 feet long and 4-5 feet tall. The 'zebra' is actually a small horse, right?

I always thought that was Lunar propaganda, right?