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1 hour ago, Jaque Elle said:

A chaos snake with the Chaos Feature (goes invisible at will) decided to avoid being killed by the players by - going invisible.  A player decided that they could cast Detect Enemy to reveal where the snake was so they could hit it.

There is another issue, I would say, since the snake is attempting to flee, and does not curerntly wish to harm the player, the spell may not pick it up at all.

1 hour ago, Mekanurg said:

The Swedish edition will focus on Talastar.

Which begs a question: Will there be an English translation published?

3 minutes ago, Rodney Dangerduck said:

Two questions

1. As I read the spell description, it must be a lie.  Not the truth.  YGMV.
2. Why is Eurmal now prohibited?  Doesn't everybody still believe the Lie?  There is presumably no "incontrovertible evidence" clearing the true perpetrator!  And, the spell is "cast undetectably".  Nobody knows when a good Lie spell has been cast.  That's the true awesome power (overpower IMO) of the spell.

1. The Trickster did not know, or care if it was the truth. 

2. The case was a setup and the evidence/witness was against them. Eventually the "truth" was revealed and the cause was determined. Laws do not protect Tricksters and the Powers that be decided to take an extra step to outlaw them altogether. 

Recently had a situation were the party were accused of murder and were put on trial. The evidence was manufactured and stacked against them. Witnesses were bought off. They were toast .... until just before the verdict was announced a Trickster stood up and using the Lie spell shifted the blame on the true perpetrator of the crime. Everyone believed him and the party was let go free. (They promptly fled the city). Now Eurmal is a prohibited cult in those parts.

Basically what I am getting from this is a Gloranthan NO (which as we come to understand covers 80% of the cases). I would say the intent and action (raising the child and performing the rituals) would count for a lot. Thank you everyone. This was informative.

Ok, what about if one finds a (magical) egg and hatches it by donating Magic Points and POW?

Requirements for Ernalda priestess:

Rune Priestess
 Standard, plus a candidate must have given birth to a healthy child.

What is if the candidate in question belongs to a species which does not give birth as a human? Is it possible to become a priestess if for example one lays eggs?
 

On 9/11/2021 at 2:24 PM, soltakss said:

What if someone had used Shapechange Rabbit to Rock first?

How about Shapechange Troll to Carrot? Can they then kill it and eat it?

On 9/9/2021 at 4:06 AM, TrvShane said:

I’m genuinely curious what it is about vegetarianism in setting that allows you to accept the more fantastical elements but not that? It’s an interesting place for YGWV to occur.

Glorantha has multiple types of life forms animal, plant based, fungal, stone, fish, spirit, undead (anti-life). What makes plant based life different for CAs from fish or animal? Are they allowed to eat fungus? It seems the standard is arbitrary and only makes sense form Real Life point of view.   That is why I was saying that the defining factor should be intelligence.

1 hour ago, Akhôrahil said:

It's a dwarven heresy, though! 🙂

Sure, but that is specific case due to the hate between Mostali and the Aldryami. There are myths for that.

5 hours ago, PhilHibbs said:

Sentience is "the capacity to be aware of feelings and sensations", yes it's often used in science fiction as a synonym of "sapience" but the strict definition includes basically anything with a nervous system. Which is why we so loosely use the word "vegetarian" without intending to include eating Gloranthan elves.

Its more than just elves, there are other intelligent plant and fungus life forms in Glorantha, and what about animated lifeforms, and Mostali? "Vegetarianism" just does not fit in a fantasy type setting, including Glorantha, especially as a dietary restriction. 

28 minutes ago, Jeff said:

You may find it illogical or that it does not follow your set of rational principles you have chosen to understand it, but them's Her rules. 

Fine, since you are basing the structure on myth what is the myth which allows CA to kill/eat plants?

1 hour ago, simonh said:

I don't think it's reasonable to take a single statement, responding to a specific point, as being a complete exposition of Challana Arroy philosophy and theology on the general topic. You suggested Chalana Arroy worshipers hunted, Jeff clarified that they don't. Of course there's more to it than that.

And I am saying that there is no reason that CA are specifically allowed to kill (even with Food Song) plant based life and are not allowed to kill insects, fish, reptiles, or mammals.

Sentience should be the determining factor with all life.

10 hours ago, Jeff said:

Elves are sentient, so they aren't eaten (then again, I can't think of any human culture that eats aldryami). But bloodshed is forbidden to Chalana Arroy initiates, and they don't hunt. 

Sentience was not a defining factor in your statement (it is in mine) and why are we limiting ourselves to humans? What prevents a Chalana Arroy Troll or an Elf? When talking plants then sap is equal to blood. Life is life in a fantasy setting. There is no difference between a mammal and vegetable both generate spirits for example. Real life vegetarianism should apply. 

On 9/2/2021 at 1:43 PM, Jeff said:

Nope. Gathering only. They are vegetarians after all.

Nonsense. You are saying that killing an elf is ok, but a rabbit is not?

Money equals power in these games. Give them what you think the should have. If you give too little, then up it next time, if you give too much, then give less. Only you know what is the right amount for your game.

Since everyone is chiming in here is my 2 cents worth:

1. CA can kill Chaos and Undead even if they are intelligent.

2. Anyone (not Chaos or Undead) are under CA's protection if they have been incapacitated by the CA (such as wit a Befuddle or Sleep spell)

3. CA is allowed to hunt for food.

4. There are restrictions on the spells CA is allowed to learn and other, friendly cults would not teach them to the CA even if asked.

5. CA would not be taught weapon skills, same as #4, but can be taught Shield skill. If they use it to attack, the consequences are on their heads.

6. Only Chaos, Undead, and possibly ZZ worshippers would attack a CA as the consequences are drastic on them and their communities.

I think she can, but she will never advance beyond an Initiate in Ernalda and may not be able to advance above God Talker in BG.

3 hours ago, Jason D said:

Yes. Why would anyone teach a giant that spell, though? 

Why wouldn't they?

Its all a matter of where you want your game to be. I give all the checks and we do them weekly as long as the PCs are in place where they can rest.

9 hours ago, Shiningbrow said:

Is Soulfire Touch or Self?? Because a Shaman with Spell Barrage would have a bit of fun.

Speaking of shamans, wouldn't she just have a spirit cult, rather than a goddess cult?

Its much batter than that:

2 hours ago, Murf said:

Do you have any myths about her to tie her worship to Dragon pass or can we just make up our own?

The cult was left open for the gamers to develop.

18 hours ago, Murf said:

Which do you think would be more appropriate for RQG. Being a player my vote would be 2D3 but I am hardly an expert (or unbiased).

If you cast both Multispell and Soul Fire, it is basically a 2 point Rune spell. As long as you do not allow a 4d3 stacking I think Soul Fire as 2D3 is good. Basically let it add +1D3 to a Disrupt and most people will start casting 2 x 2D3 spells or 3D3, with each additional Multispell giving another 1D3 of stacking or another 2D3 spell. Personally, I think it may be a better result than the 4D3+4 that soltakss suggests.

6 hours ago, Murf said:

SOULFIRE 1 POW 80 meters, 15 minutes, non-stackable, reusable This spell must be cast upon one person. For the duration of the spell any Disruption spells cast by the Soulfired person will do 1D3+ 1 damage instead of the normal 1D3. The victim will feel a painful burning sensation instead of the normal wound.

In RQ3 I believe it made Disrupts do 2D3.

2 hours ago, Murf said:

According to the Griffin Mountain Fire and Sprite.

 

 

Any particular spells or all of them?