Khanwulf Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 This... this has probably been answered before, but let's discuss. Arthurian legend has a variety of "magic knights"... and then it has magic-using knights. The latter group of sorcerous lancers include the mysterious Menw, who shows up in Culhwch and Olwen to raise a fog at one point. The latter group explicitly includes Gawain, and may include Kay, Bedivere and the like if you hew to Culhwch. It's the express inclusion of Gawain that bothers me a tad. Greg set Culhwch to one side because despite its authenticity as one of the earliest legends of Arthur's court, it doesn't fit with the chivalric practice of KAP. Gawain has magic powers that raise his strength in the morning such that he's mightiest at noon and weakens toward dusk. Now... in KAP's honor loss tables there is '-8 for casting spells' (single quotes because I'm not actually looking at it right now). We can assume that Menw took this hit, and then rolled forward raising Honor at ever opportunity. But what about Gawain? If you acquire a magic power--a secret in Gawain's case known to himself, Arthur and select few others I might add--what kind of Honor hit do you take? Are 'spells' limited to KAP-style magic with life energy and all that? Or is it a broader category of magic in general? Bonus: how did Gawain get his solar superman power? Any explanation? --Khanwulf (PS: obviously in Gawain's case he probably earned his Honor back in an afternoon or something--at least by Greg's notes!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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