mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Neither Sea nor Storm? Or are those in a future Triskele (Mobility)/Stasis superimposition? 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Joerg said: Neither Sea nor Storm? Or are those in a future Triskele (Mobility)/Stasis superimposition? No just running variations on light–dark using the truth–illusion superposition that was surely always intended. I thought about curving the arms of the truth rune to suggest the motion rune, but … nah! Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Fire, Darkness, and Moon would be one set of replacements for the three small Darknesses of the Illusion rune. The other three runes are less circular, but might work there, too, or the Y for Truth might be made from the remaining three elements. E.g. Earth in the center, surrounded by water, then Storm (or vice versa, depending on your message). Mobility-Stasis are the Powers pair which lends itself least for such schemes. Fertility-Death offers a capped eight-armed star or almost a black square, nearly as good as Truth as the negative of Illusion and vice versa in their hexagon, and Harmony-Disorder gives an almost black square when superimposed, too. One fun thing would be a series of opposing powers superpositions created by arranging another opposing powers superpositions which in turn get created from another opposed powers superposition - ideally five iterations so that the smallest and the largest are the same. Might work better as an animated gif, though. 1 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-martin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Joerg said: One fun thing would be a series of opposing powers superpositions created by arranging another opposing powers superpositions which in turn get created from another opposed powers superposition - ideally five iterations so that the smallest and the largest are the same. Might work better as an animated gif, though. Yeah, I came back here to ponder the notion of Gloranthan mystery cults pursuing runic combinations the orthodox magicians consider paradoxical or absurd. Maybe most apparently go nowhere but you never know if a particular combination will unlock the world. I like doing it with sacred geometry. New runes from old! On the other hand, the more systematic combinatorial thinkers got rolled up into the zistor program, leaving only the most idiosyncratic behind. 2 Quote singer sing me a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, Joerg said: nearly as good as Truth as the negative of Illusion You say negative, I say inescapable complement or concomitant. Truth values are 1 and 0, not 1 and -1. More of this anon (i.e. once I have drawn the pictures). 25 minutes ago, scott-martin said: New runes from old! Derivations coming. Honest, guv! 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eff Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Once upon a time, I contemplated making the "Pelandan Ideograms" that sit in the background of the Entekosiad and the Fortunate Succession material on New Pelorian for a page of New Pelorian text, and I did them up as similar to cartouches or zhuwen-type seals: exterior border around the characters. For "Carmania", I made a couple of jumbly characters for Kar Ma N Os and a little sigil- arranged in the order of . But there it was explicitly scriptural rhetoric, like the furigana-esque tiny Khordavan characters above it that spelled out "Western Reaches". 1 1 Quote "And I am pretty tired of all this fuss about rfevealign that many worshippers of a minor goddess might be lesbians." -Greg Stafford, April 11, 2007 "I just read an article in The Economist by a guy who was riding around with the Sartar rebels, I mean Taliban," -Greg Stafford, January 7th, 2010 Eight Arms and the Mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-martin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, mfbrandi said: Derivations coming. Honest, guv! ta, a tad distracted from our more trollish pursuits this week as Mother of Markets has us all on call. derivatives welcome, will pick up again soon. One thing I liked about this particular series is the way it interacted with a dream that told me how the death of the old sun to make way for nysalor and the current yelm relates to what we now call the ultimate rite of the northern hrestolic church . . . when things get too bad to resolve any other way, the king must die. (No overt comment on GBP intended.) Then there's another rite of the west that engineers a succession, a new birth. TLDR this looks like an artifact of the old sun, something impossibly archaic now but still vibrant. By which I mean "elfin." Edited September 30, 2022 by scott-martin stinger 1 Quote singer sing me a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-martin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Joerg said: animated gif I just realized we can probably code specialized Gloranthan "dream machines" to strobe and flicker and seed new meditative patterns of thought. How interesting! 1 Quote singer sing me a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, scott-martin said: I just realized we can probably code specialized Gloranthan "dream machines" to strobe and flicker and seed new meditative patterns of thought. How interesting! Possibly cheap mass-produced kaleidoscopes from Second Age God Forgot, not even requiring a visit to the Clanking Ruins to be dug up somewhere? Available as "no-price" participation rewards at Casino Town? Could be done on parchment or in stained glass. 1 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, scott-martin said: By which I mean "elfin." Well, we are not a million miles away from the plant rune, are we? 1 hour ago, scott-martin said: specialized Gloranthan "dream machines" to strobe and flicker and seed new meditative patterns of thought. All part of the secret of the light within, so be careful what you wish for. 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Harmony from Chaos (it was deprecated because they didn’t want you to know), Fibonacci style. Edited September 30, 2022 by mfbrandi annotation 1 1 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 Disorder from Chaos — Taken directly from a Transport for London project plan. 3 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mfbrandi said: Harmony from Chaos Looks more like how to transfer out of the London Underground. 😉 (And looking at your next post, apparently that results in Disorder, not Harmony...) Edited September 30, 2022 by jajagappa 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Joerg said: Mobility-Stasis are the Powers pair which lends itself least for such schemes. We have already derived Phi and Harmony. Moon is a trivial derivation. We get Stasis and Motion by breaking the Moon and playing with the pieces. Storm is like Motion but diminished, an altogether lesser thing: Sea/Water and all the other straight line segment runes are too boring to construct. The Man rune is straight lines plus Light and the Moon segment we used to create Motion and Storm/Air. If we ever have any non-runic pieces left over, we just multiply them by Light. (This shows that Light is as much the void as Darkness is.) Edited September 30, 2022 by mfbrandi placating the stormophiles Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Derivations of Darkness, Cold, Heat, and Fire from Light: The cultic sigil (rotate at will): What are the cult’s runes? It surely cannot have all of these. Depends who you ask. Ostensibly, Harmony, Darkness, and Disorder — they seem safe — but in the right company, this is displayed: And that, I promise, is it. Edited September 30, 2022 by mfbrandi (parenthesis) Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 We have this in our upcoming Holiday Dorastor: Moon Elves supplement. 2 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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