pansophy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Well, a player came up with the question if there is an Edge mechanism as you would find in Savage Worlds or other games. I gave it a short thought and quickly came up with the following idea: just make it a 'Recurring' or 'Permanent Consequence' that can be invoked once per Conflict or once per Session, depending on how powerful it is. It was a very easy approach and did not change any rules at all. An other idea would have been to make the Advantage a Stunt to be used with a Skill. But I think it all depends on the type of Dis-/Advantage one tries to implement. A 'Deadeye' advantage would be best simulated by declaring it a Stunt, but 'Easily Distracted' or 'Access to powerful Politicians' sounds like a Consequence to me. I love the system. 8-) 2 Quote My Uploads - BRP and new: Revolution D100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, pansophy said: Well, a player came up with the question if there is an Edge mechanism as you would find in Savage Worlds or other games. I gave it a short thought and quickly came up with the following idea: just make it a 'Recurring' or 'Permanent Consequence' that can be invoked once per Conflict or once per Session, depending on how powerful it is. It was a very easy approach and did not change any rules at all. I have not played Savage Worlds, so am not sure what the Edge mechanism is. However, Consequences can be used to gain a number of things, some good and some bad. A well made item might have a good Consequence, such as light or easy to use, a poorly made item might have a bad Consequence, such as heavy or hard to use. Defeating an enemy might get a Consequence of Feared by Orcs, or Hated by Orcs, or Beloved of Orcs, depending on who the enemy was. You can play around with them and use them however you want. 6 hours ago, pansophy said: An other idea would have been to make the Advantage a Stunt to be used with a Skill. But I think it all depends on the type of Dis-/Advantage one tries to implement. A 'Deadeye' advantage would be best simulated by declaring it a Stunt, but 'Easily Distracted' or 'Access to powerful Politicians' sounds like a Consequence to me. I would agree that something like Deadeye could be a stunt. In fact, many of Legend's Heroic Abilities translate as Stunts in Revolution d100. having the others as Concequences works as well. 6 hours ago, pansophy said: I love the system. 8-) The more I use it, the more flexible it becomes. I just need to use it to run a game, now. In any case, I will be using a lot of the rules in any future RQ game. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansophy Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just added a few files to the Downloads section: My house rules, a Revolution D100 Cheat Sheet with a rules summary, and a character sheet for Basic/Narrative Combat. See the link in my signature. Quote My Uploads - BRP and new: Revolution D100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka84 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Actually I have done something of the sort for my game Since my group is lazy and I will never get them to read the main book I wrote a "redux" version (in spanish) for them; as I was organizing the information I had a flash of insight: Stunts and powers are also traits. (Duh I know) Once I started thinking like that, I realized that I could hack stunts into my game (I don’t use advanced combat), in essence a stunt is a trait that a. doesn’t provide a bonus b. changes at least one mechanical variable c. may provide narrative permission (for example Acrobatics and Read intentions both provide narrative permission, they justify why you can use acrobatics to make a Wuxia like jump, or use dodge to avoid bullets) So basically I defined a trait as “a word that specifies something about your character” and it can be an Enhancer, a Stunt, or a Power Enhancer traits are what we know in RD100 as a “trait”; if you can justify how the trait aids you, you get a bonus to your check, or it can be used for support actions (Denoted on the character sheet with an E after the trait) Stunt traits on the other hand, do not provide bonuses; instead they may introduce a new mechanic into the game, change the way a mechanic works, and provide narrative justification. (Denoted on the character sheet with an S after the trait) In order to buy a Stunt trait you need to have a pre-requisite Enhancer trait Power traits are a mix of enhancer traits and stunt traits, that is, it’s a trait that can be used to get a bonus, but which also introduces new mechanics. (Denoted on the character sheet with an P after the trait) So a character may have for example Spellcasting (E), Range (S), Demoralize (P) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Up till now, it’s just semantics (I’m just teaching the same game with different words), but here is where it gets interesting, let’s say I want to run a game about supernatural creatures, so I come up with two enhancer traits, Werewolf and Vampire Now, each enhancer trait can have a family of stunts and powers associated, for example:Werewolf (E): Regeneration (S): Once per physical conflict, you may choose to regain 1D6 resolution points. You may do so a second time if you take an “enraged” consequence. War claws (S): Your natural weapon damage is D6 Protection (P): As per the protection power Vampire (E) Invisibility (P): As per the invisibility power Blood sight (S): You never take penalties from environmental sources that would impair your vision Haste (P): As per the haste power If you are lazy like me, you can get rid of Powers (powers as freeform traits) and just use Enhancers + Stunts, that pretty much hits my crunchiness sweet spot. So I guess my hack is that I opened up stunts to be like edges/feats from other systems Edited August 24, 2017 by Tanaka84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zit Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Tanaka84 said: So basically I defined a trait as “a word that specifies something about your character” I like this. Quote Wind on the Steppes, role playing among the steppe Nomads. The running campaign and the blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 On 24/8/2017 at 5:56 PM, Tanaka84 said: So I guess my hack is that I opened up stunts to be like edges/feats from other systems I am sorry to tell you this, but... you did not hack anything This is exactly how you are supposed to use Traits and Stunts. Quote Stunt traits on the other hand, do not provide bonuses; instead they may introduce a new mechanic into the game, change the way a mechanic works, and provide narrative justification. This is a perfectly valid rephrasing of the definition of "Stunt" 1 Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka84 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, RosenMcStern said: I am sorry to tell you this, but... you did not hack anything This is exactly how you are supposed to use Traits and Stunts. This is a perfectly valid rephrasing of the definition of "Stunt" Hahahhaha, i was under the impression that stunts only work under certain subsystems, for example in advsnced combat, good to know I was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 They are certainly more effective when used in conjunction with crunchy subsystems, but there is absolutely no limit to what effects a Stunt may have. In fact, I absolutely encourage everyone (see sidebar on p. 27) to encapsulate their variant and house rules in Stunts, so that they are easier to port to other settings and campaigns. If your house rule is encapsulated in a Stunt, you can always determine that in your own world that Stunt is automatically acquired with its parent Trait, whereas in other settings only the lone hero who has visited the faraway land of Zipango has it. Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archivist Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 This should totally go in "how do I do that" under "how do I implement" advantages, disadvantages, and edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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