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About M Helsdon

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    Proofreader.... on Guide to Glorantha, King of Sartar, HeoQuest: Glorantha. Contributor to The Coming Storm. Etc.

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  1. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    Been a bit distracted by a family medical emergency, and then a trip to London today.
  2. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    The material I've pillaged is all under Chaosium copyright. It probably amounts to less than a twentieth of the material, probably less, but is virtually impossible to extract. I have considered asking for a license, but as the material includes artwork, would probably be too expensive for something I'd be releasing for free in PDF format, unless Chaosium create a means of publishing Gloranthan fan material under their aegis.
  3. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    No stats. It's a 'history book', and stats might be a bit controversial. I believe Jeff intended to use some of my illustrations as source material for the RQG artists. (I couldn't find suitable RW illustrations of swords, helmets, armor etc. so I drew illustrations for my book - the spears aren't terribly interesting - the swords, shields and armor are better). There are hardcopies of last year's version with Jeff and David; PDFs have been shared with some licensees who wanted military details. In my earlier list of topics, I forgot to mention there's a chapter on fortifications and siege warfare.
  4. M Helsdon

    Is Queen Gagix Still Alive?

    The Queen will welcome the arrival of new recruits.
  5. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    My ongoing research project... So far 321 pages. Probably totally uncommercial (three pages about spears, for example, unlikely to interest a wide audience). Basically, it takes aspects of warfare in the terrestrial Bronze and early Iron Age, adds magic and gods, to offer a depiction of warfare in central Genertela in the early Hero Wars. As I've raided every canonical source I can find, it breaches too many copyrights to issue without Chaosium's approval. It begins with materials, looks at manufacture, types of arms and armor, unit types and organization, regional histories, gods, magic, terrain, extensive army lists and text boxes relating to logistics... So if you want to find out about, say, the saddle you need to ride a hippogriff, there's information about it. Some small segments may be appearing in the next Wyrms Footnotes relating to another fairly esoteric topic, and one less so.
  6. M Helsdon

    Mass starvation and Our Heroes

    Whilst not RGQ, the HQG The Coming Storm/Eleven Lights cover and explore events in the Great Winter, including this. The death rate is pretty severe, even among the 'Rich Tribe', and among Lunar-friendly tribes as well. Even Lunar garrisons suffer. (Maize doesn't grow, at least is doesn't outside the Glowline during the Windstop.)
  7. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    Historically, the ancient kontos/lance could be quite long. Non-canonical, but derived from historical usage. I also distinguish between a 2H kontos, and a 1H lance...
  8. M Helsdon

    Are 2H weapons the only way to go?

    RQG: Lance: This is a long cavalry lance about 3.5–4.25 meters long, used with both hands. This seems to approximate the historical cavalry kontos, used with both hands very effectively by cavalry, especially cataphracts, long before the introduction of stirrups...
  9. M Helsdon

    HeroQuest and Glorantha, the future

    Something that comes across from the 'historical' source material, is that there's an almost exponential increase in effects from spirit to Rune magic, and then there are further steps to 'Temple' magic requiring several priests and assistants, and then Magical regiments.
  10. M Helsdon

    Planning a Rathori campaign

    A yew bow, whether classified as a longbow or not, has significant advantages because if well made, the use of yew makes what is otherwise a self bow approach the capabilities of a laminate bow. A good quality yew bow uses a cut including both sapwood and heartwood - the two have different properties, as sapwood is strong when in tension, the heartwood in compression - and the two together provide a powerful bow without requiring strong glues, or any special treatment other than selecting and making the bow from a single piece of wood. This is why yew self bows were used and preferred in Europe for at least five thousand years over self bows made of any other wood. The oldest we know of was carried by Otzi the Iceman; he hadn't finished making it when he was killed.
  11. M Helsdon

    Tax and Tribute

    Yes. I've noted that each of the Provincial Kingdoms has its own military forces, but haven't attempted to detail them - until now.... 8-)
  12. M Helsdon

    Sun Dome Temples

    Now 321 pages. (Of course most of the appendices could be chopped out). Some material may be appearing in the next Wyrms Footnotes. Introduction......................................... 5 Warfare................................................ 6 Troop Types...................................... 7 Weapons and Armor......................... 9 Non-Human Weapons and Armor.... 35 Unit Organization............................ 36 Innovation...................................... 50 Regional Warfare................................ 52 Pelorian Warfare............................. 53 The Holy Country............................. 63 The Horse Nations........................... 65 Hsunchen Warfare........................... 68 Orlanthi Warfare............................. 68 Praxian Warfare.............................. 74 Other Facets of Warfare.................. 76 Tribute and Taxes............................ 85 The Battlefield.................................... 88 The Battleground............................ 88 Asymmetry..................................... 91 Articulation..................................... 91 Infantry........................................... 91 Cavalry.......................................... 102 Fliers............................................. 111 Chariots......................................... 112 Vexillae......................................... 117 Artillery......................................... 117 Magical.......................................... 118 War Dogs....................................... 119 Warships....................................... 119 Heroes.......................................... 124 Transport and Mobility...................... 125 The Campaign Year........................ 126 Roads and Warfare........................ 129 Water and Warfare........................ 135 Terrain.......................................... 137 Fortifications and Siege Warfare........ 142 Siege Weapons.............................. 142 History of Fortification................... 144 Fortifications................................. 145 Arcane Warfare................................. 159 Religion and Warfare..................... 162 Magical Warfare............................ 162 Gods of War...................................... 180 War Gods of the Lunar Empire........ 183 War Gods of Sartar and Heortland.. 189 War Gods of Esrolia........................ 192 War Gods and Spirits of Prax.......... 193 War Gods of the Horse Nations...... 194 Plates................................................ 196 Armies of Central Genertela.............. 205 Lunar Army.................................... 205 Sartar Free Army............................ 221 Independents................................ 226 Hero Wars Army Lists......................... 239 Lunar Army List.............................. 240 Sartar Free Army List...................... 259 Independents List.......................... 268 Appendices....................................... 284 Beasts of War................................ 284 Temples and Towers...................... 286 Fazzur Wideread............................ 294 The Seshnelan Army...................... 298 Weapon Use.................................. 300 Figures for Gloranthan Armies....... 301 Phalanx Commands....................... 302 Equivalent Military Ranks.............. 303 Index................................................ 307
  13. M Helsdon

    Tax and Tribute

    All true; Hwarin's influence was geographically limited during the Celestial Empire, and other than Sylila (and perhaps Imther) didn't last in the other southern regions until the Lunar resurgence. But with the source of metal closed down, the Singing Road won't be carrying very much tribute. It's interesting that the only regiment Imther provided to the Provincial Army is the Kareiston’s Templars, and I can't see that remaining unless the Overseer makes other arrangement with the Temple. Probably some very interesting politicking between whoever rules in Hilltown, the Temple, and the Provincial government...
  14. M Helsdon

    Tax and Tribute

    Corrected in the document. My assumptions are covered in a later subsection: Temples Temples are always significant economic and political entities and many are militarily important, raising and maintaining their own warbands and regiments. Even temples not primarily concerned with war have their units of temple guards; temples are repositories of significant wealth, and do not rely solely upon their magical defenses. As a rule, temples take a fifth to a quarter of the harvest of their tenant farmers on their lands and tithe their congregations. In Peloria some temples own large slave plantations and so profit entirely from the produce. The Sun Dome Temples also derive revenue from the mercenary companies and regiments they hire out. Those within the Provincial Kingdoms often offset this against the taxes and tributes required by the king. I have no insight to this. From 1623 Imther is in a bit of a mess, politically and economically. Do you mean Lunar Provincial Overseer? I'd forgotten that the Provincial Government was only set up in 1545.
  15. M Helsdon

    Tax and Tribute

    The material below is in part derived from material previously posted by Jeff and Harald, and inspired by a book on the logistics of the Assyrian Army... May seem like a very dry topic, but armies have to be fed and paid, and tribute and tax caravans are potential targets for 'adventurers' after the Liberation of Sartar... [Other sections detail the Orlanthi system, and Cities and Temples.] Tribute and Taxes Whilst armies in the field can enrich themselves with plunder and loot, this is rarely a means of financing and equipping a professional army. Instead, soldiers and mercenaries are paid for their service, by means of taxes and tribute, and booty is treated as supplementary income. In Solar (and Lunar) societies, soldiers are granted land upon retirement; in Storm societies (and the Sun Dome Templars), professional warriors are generally supported by the land granted to them by their liege, worked by tenant farmers or members of their own family. Lunar Provincial Kingdoms Each of the Provincial Kingdoms of the Lunar Empire is expected to provide a yearly tribute to the Provincial Overseer at Mirin’s Cross. To pay this tribute, the Provincial Kings often impose forced collections, such as an extra tenth of the harvest, or a tax on land, herds, and other goods. A similar system operates in each of the Lunar Satrapies, with a tithe in crops and herds, and taxes. Each satrapy includes tribute collection centers. Permanent and temporary toll collection points may also be set up on roads, and at river crossings to impose transit taxes on traders and travelers. On a smaller scale, tribute gatherers collect tribute from peripheral and client states. Until 1625 the Grazelands provided horses (mostly destined for the Provincial Army), and the tribes of Sartar, cattle. Much of the tribute collected is in the form of herd animals; these booty columns require an escort. Tax collectors have numerous opportunities to enrich themselves. A tribute caravan is escorted by an armed retinue, but as the Hero Wars progress, professional soldiers drawn from the Provincial Army are utilized. At one time the rulers of each kingdom were expected to present themselves and their tribute to the court of the Overseer, but in recent Wanes their envoys and other emissaries travel with the tribute caravans to Mirin’s Cross. These are either officials such as eorls, or senior Etyries merchants. The tribute supports the offices of the Provincial Government: Procurement and Disbursement which collects taxes; the Provincial Army; the Guide for the Lunar Way. Each office is staffed by Buseri scribes. The Office of Procurement and Disbursement is then responsible for collecting and collating the tribute and taxes sent downriver to the imperial heartland. It also distributes material to the other offices. The Provincial Army, commanded by the Imperial Provincial General, uses its share of tribute to support the army. Foodstuffs are stored in depots; horses are distributed to cavalry regiments; metals are stored or worked into weapons and armor to fill the arsenals; coin is used to pay the scribes, artisans and other free workers. Each Provincial Kingdom is expected to recruit, equip and pay the troops it contributes to the Provincial Army. The exact system varies, with some regiments being raised and maintained by cities or temples, and some effectively being hired mercenaries. When they are deployed, the Office of the Provincial Army takes responsibility for their wages and other logistical requirements. The same is true for imperial regiments serving with the Provincial Army. Traditionally, this changeover occurs when they march through the gates of Mirin’s Cross. Provincial Kingdom Tribute Route to Mirin’s Cross Aggar Coin, Maize, Metalwork, Pottery, Wheat, Wine From Eneal by barge on the Forantin and Oslir rivers. Holay Coin, Maize, Slaves, Wheat, Wine From Filichet via the Daughter’s Road. Imther Bronze, Cheese, Coin, Copper, Furs From Hillfort via the Singing Road to Jillaro and then by the Daughter’s Road or by barge on the Oslir. Tarsh Coin, Maize, Manufactured Goods, Silver, Slaves, Wheat From Furthest by barge on the Oslir river. Vanch Coin, Gems, Herbs, Leather, Wool From Bikhy by road to the Singing Road to Jillaro and then by the Daughter’s Road or by barge on the Oslir. As the Seventh Wane comes to a close, the flow of tribute is interrupted by turmoil in several of the Provincial Kingdoms: Aggar has been in civil war since 1620, reducing the flow of tribute; the supply of metal from Imther ended in 1623, and other tribute is reduced by upheaval in the kingdom; the successful rebellion in Sartar in 1625 reduces the level of tribute from Tarsh (especially curtailing the slave trade from Sartar and Prax), with agricultural tribute also decreasing as a result of the civil war in Tarsh from 1627 as the king loses control of Kordros Island, the breadbasket of his kingdom. This unrest makes the transport of tribute increasingly hazardous, diverting additional military resources to protect it.
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