Drad Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Hi everyone, I am GM the Hero Wars in the East Isles and is woundering about the name of the sun there. The Gods has different names from the one used in Dragon Pass. One of the Island Gods, Kendaramin was the advisor in the Celestial Palace, so the Emporer would had to be known. But with what name? He is the sun and is seen on the surface at least. Does anybody have any thought about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 I don't think that Yelm is the Emperor in the East Isles. However, I don't know what the sun is called in the East Isles. Maybe they have different names for the sun, or its aspects. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Yelm and Govmeranen were identified with each other by the God Learners. Govmeranen is called HeenMaroun by the Kralorslans, the Second Emperor. Like many people - including many Dawn Age people - most East Islanders do not believe the sun to be Govmeranen reborn. The God Learners considered this to be analogous to Ehilm, which is a far less personalised version of Yelm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jeff said: Like many people - including many Dawn Age people - most East Islanders do not believe the sun to be Govmeranen reborn. The God Learners considered this to be analogous to Ehilm, which is a far less personalised version of Yelm. Does worship of Ehilm - without knowledge of Yelm - provide anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard S. said: Does worship of Ehilm - without knowledge of Yelm - provide anything? IMO Yelmalion magics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldennose Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 In our version of the East Isles, Govmeranen will possibly be Yelm as the ruler, separate to Yelm as the Celestial Sun. And practically, Govmeranen is mostly approached by mystic methods. But there could be some parts of the Isles that still has Govmeranen as a ruling god, or patron of rulers? Govmeranen will possibly be in our East Isles books, when Hanfarador and Mokato get more attention. That will not happen in the first six books that are planned and in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Drad said: He is the sun and is seen on the surface at least. Does anybody have any thought about it? Govemeranen has already been mentioned. Revealed Mythologies p103, p120 mentions a Maluraya which jibs with what Jeff said about Ehilm. Quote Viceroy of Day, the Vithelan Sun God. He is the ruling entity for this celestial body, which is his own physical form. The Vithelans do not accord the sun with great wisdom or personality, but as a constant body of Nature and manifestation of the perfect Essence—a thing that is both fire and fuel—that lies at the heart of the world of Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecake Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 To be pedantic, Govmeranen is probably more equivalent not to Yelm himself as the physical Sun, but to Murharzarm, the son of Yelm that represents Yelm as manifest Emperor. But it’s expected that the God Learners hand wave that sort of detail. On 11/7/2022 at 1:02 AM, Jeff said: The God Learners considered this to be analogous to Ehilm, which is a far less personalised version of Yelm. Maluraya is the Sun, but he is only a Viceroy, not the Emperor. He probably rules the Sky as a representative of Govmeranen, but Govmeranen wants only to meditate now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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