g33k Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Over in the "Official Q&A" thread, @Scotty clarified that "Sunbright" doesn't function magically as if it were "direct sunlight:" Quote Sunbright creates a 60-meter radius circle of light around the target of the spell. Clear Sight, no. This spell only functions on objects in direct sunlight. Sunbright is not direct sunlight. Sunspear, no. This spell works only in direct sunlight. Sunbright is not direct sunlight. Leading me to suggest that some Solar heroquester (likely an Illuminate from the Lunar empire) discover/create a Solar version of the Lunar "Glowspot"... A spell whose radius *does* allow the casting of other "only in direct sunlight" spells. Maybe a two-Heroquest project -- 1st, bring back a unique "Be a Sunspot" HQ-ability. Later, HQ to find/create a Runespell version of that ability. Maybe it "stacks" on top of Sunbright: Sunbright + Sunspot + The "needs direct sunlight" Runespell(s). This shows a nifty parallel to the suite of shapeshifting runemagic from Odayla &c... Edited November 14, 2023 by g33k stacking 3 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Personally, I'm just going to keep running Sunbright as counting as sunlight. And even if it doesn't, I don't really think its a problem that can/should be fixed. If a heroquester tried to find some fragment of the sun remaining in the darkness, they'd find Yelmalio. Edited November 14, 2023 by Richard S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Richard S. said: Personally, I'm just going to keep running Sunbright as counting as sunlight. And even if it doesn't, I don't really think its a problem that can/should be fixed. If a heroquester tried to find some fragment of the sun remaining in the darkness, they'd find Yelmalio. I don't think I understand you here: you say "...I don't really think its a problem that can/should be fixed..." but that you're "... just going to keep running Sunbright as counting as sunlight..." So you have "fixed" it, but you ... think you shouldn't have? 🫤 🧐 😵💫 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) I did phrase it badly. What I meant was essentially that while it isn't a problem for my own campaign, I don't think it makes sense in general for there to be a way outside of Yelmalio to access that sort of solar power in the darkness. And while maybe this "sunspot" power does come from Yelmalio, I feel that it's easier to just say that the spell that already makes the caster "glow like the sun" counts as sunlight, rather than making a whole separate rune spell. Anyways, if you do want a Sunspot spell, I think effect wise it would be pretty similar to Sunbright. It'd probably create a radius of sunlight around the target, functioning as normal sunlight but also allowing sunlight-based magic. Probably it'd be Self rather than Ranged. Maybe it's a little narrower, say 6 meters, and manifests as a vertical column of light from Lightfore or some other celestial body, like a spotlight. Edited November 14, 2023 by Richard S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 21 hours ago, g33k said: Leading me to suggest that some Solar heroquester (likely an Illuminate from the Lunar empire) discover/create a Solar version of the Lunar "Glowspot"... Or just have a cool artefact like the Goldenblood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 7:44 AM, Scotty said: Or just have a cool artefact like the Goldenblood. That's a very cool artefact, indeed! OTOH, it's very different from the scope & scale of the Sunbright and/or Sunspot rune-spells that originally launched the topic. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 2:55 AM, Richard S. said: Maybe it's a little narrower, say 6 meters, and manifests as a vertical column of light from Lightfore or some other celestial body, like a spotlight. Even when underground?? Or inside? Honestly, because it's coming from Yelmalio, and not Yelm, I can see why it's not direct sunlight. And, thus, a new spell such as Sunspot makes sense. (add to that the effects should do something to trolls- such as making them run away... again, that's Yelm in Hell - not Yelmalio on HoG) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I had a Hero Power that enabled a Yelmalian to act as the Sun, so his Sun Spears cam from him not from the Sun. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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