Guide to Glorantha Group Read Week 12 - Chen Durel

[David Scott]

Chen Durel discussion here!

Don't forget Colin Driver's epic maps and the artwork.

https://basicroleplaying.org/topic/6746-guide-to-glorantha-group-read-week-12-kralorela/

https://basicroleplaying.org/topic/6747-guide-to-glorantha-group-read-week-12-deep-discussion/

https://basicroleplaying.org/topic/6720-guide-to-glorantha-group-read-week-12-errors/

[metcalph]

Bliss in Ignorance appears to have two capitals.  There's Su Lo Cha p290 but Can Shu the ruler lives in Zhi Ti.

p288 Eristi the Doubter who made a curiously prominent appearance in the myths of Uz Lore appears to have ended up in Eristiland as does a certain magical item from Plunder!

[davecake]

Gartog - Ma-Yood-Sushai is a reference to MĀNA-YOOD-SUSHĀĪ, from The Gods of Pegana by Lord Dunsany. Both must be kept asleep by constant drumming or they will wake up and destroy the world. 

[davecake]

Hali - my best guess is that this a reference to the Lake of Hali, making ruined Karakosë a reference to lost Carcosa. so a reference to Lovecraft/Bierce/Robert Chambers, which fits the creepy vibe of the area. 

Though Karaköse was the former name of a city in Azerbaijan, named originally after a 'black church'. I think that is probably just an odd coincidence.

[davecake]

Jankley Bore - one of Sandys many Edward Lear in-jokes, a reference to the Chankly Bore. 

So Grombul probably a reference to the Gromboolian Plain.

the Nimble Hen, with its single twisted leg, is reference to the Fimble Fowl, with its corkscrew leg. The creature whose initials are Y.B.B. Is the Yonghy-Bonghy-Bo. 

Coromandel -> Koromondol, Turtle Cove, Stone Heap, prawns and watercress, are all further references to The Courtship of the Yonghy-Bonghy-Bo. The jack o bears are because it's 'where the early pumpkins blow'. 

Any more? 

[davecake]

Bokrug, mentioned in Qitong Zant, and probably Taran-il (Taran-Ish is the dead priest), are both from the Lovecraft story The Doom The Came To Sarnath. So is the city of Kadatheron (it's clay cylinders are brick in the story). 

[davecake]

Ilkarnet - I like to think the horned idol with rubies for eyes is the one from the original Advanced Dungeons and Dragons players handbook cover. 

[davecake]

Peol Jagganoth - this is another Lord Dunsany reference. 

[Steve]

21 hours ago, davecake said:

Jankley Bore - one of Sandys many Edward Lear in-jokes, a reference to the Chankly Bore. 

Thank you, I meant to ask when the time came up (but then promptly forgot) whether Chen Durel was Sandy's work. It sounded so bonkers to me, that I thought it had to be (and I mean that in a nice way).

 

[davecake]

The Edward Lear and Herschel Gordon Lewis (in the Blood Sun and Black Sun cults) are Sandy, I don't know if he is responsible all of the area though. Though obviously it would make sense for Mr Call of Cthulhu to be responsible for the Lovecraftian and Dunsany references.