>> This all sounds well reasoned to me. I do think that people both downplay and play up the amount of privilege they think a person has but thats a one on one matter. Its really hard to know what a person's life has been like unless your in their shoes but I would agree that in some cases privilege seems obvious.
I would add that if you are a conservative living in Dallas and you have mostly conservative friends you are most likely to hear words like privilege on the nightly news (CNN, MSNBC, etc) or during the recent democrat presidental candidate debates. In those cases privilege is nearly always directed at conservatives as a slur. It happens so often that for many of us the definition of the word that pops into our heads is ALWAYS an insult. Obviously I know your taking the time to explain your thoughts and are acting in good faith and I can see the difference, but I am not confident that your use of the word is the normal use of the word. I think the insult form is the normal use of the word. I am glad to discuss this point as it might be just me. So feel free to educate me.
I guess so. I definitely think their should be an even playing field for everyone. I don't think I have taken privilege to mean that but I suppose some people do.
We are going to have to disagree on this one. I have never seen an insult help in any situation. Rather its divisive and builds walls between people that should be trying to understand how each other thinks. It's also quite rude.
I suspect that many of the people that are benefitting from some unacknowledged privilege just think they are THAT good. We all have our various flaws wether its because we lack humility or something else. Like you said its the human condition.
Theoretically I agree with this but I have a feeling we would clash on the details. I may know nothing about endorinology but I might not trust someones judgement or maybe even their motives. I am very likely to hire my own endocrinology doctor and I would expect them to be listened too also. Also if your the expert and you make a decision that's going to adversally affect me you will need to either convince me, the voter, or at least convince my representative in government.
I think this rarely comes up in terms of people as I believe people are all the same. Black, white, asian, hispanic, slavs, rich, poor, Hindu, Christians, etc... I have been all over the world and people are always worried about their children, have hopes for their family, and just want to make it through life. In my view (which is limited to the US) the government should provide a level playing field but beyond that should get out of the way.
I an agree with that too as long as your provide the same even playing field for the impoverished family as you do the wealthy family. I dont believe the US government has the authority to play favorites.
Sure as long as you don't then say (because your are unprivileged) that you are going to regulate me, violate my constitutional rights are unfairly tax me. Like you said - a fair, and even playing ground is the key. And it would help a lot if the person telling the other person to sit down and listen has the credibility to pull it off. CNN routinely tells me the "way things are" and I roll my eyes. If you want to convince me and not just waste your breath you need to show me that you are credible, and that you have good motives.
Like I said you better convince me that your credible or you wasted both of our time.
Very stimulating discussion! Thank you!