Jon Hunter

if hes hands off, who is hands on ?

Anyway i'm actually interested in the orginal subject and aim of the thread ? What is Pavis going to be like in 1625 -27 Which cults hold power? Which families fared well, which have done badly ? Does the city feel lawless or civlized? Is Argarath a good or bad ruler? Is it meet the new boss same as the old boss?

http://www.backtobalazar.com/pavis-npc-runequest-glorantha-lunar-deserter/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/pavis-npcs-for-runequest-glorantha-part-3-backstreet-evaluator/

As a player I play in RQG games and campaigns, my campaigns run on ST:G as it suits my style better. As regards what I write im going to focus on RQG as that is what most people want. I may bring ST:G out for some conference play one offs at some point.

A few bits and bobs published since I last updated this thread; http://www.backtobalazar.com/elmal-runequest-cult-write-up/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/moonlighters-inn-new-pavis-write-up/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/plastic-28mm-figures-in-runequest-manufacturer-reviews/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/gloranthan-bronze-age/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/pavis-1618-1621-rumors/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/the-art-of-being-a-better-runequest-player/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/pavis-npcs-for-runequest-glorantha-post-1/

Cheers Jeff, I had missed that nuance.

I've no firm opinion on the main point. Apart from I think I had just got used to Elmal then he is back as Yelmalio. People don't like unexpected change. They really don't like having 10 - 20 years to get used to unexpected change and then have everything change back again. Any movement like that whatever the merit of the argument will create resistance. My observation from spending most of my adult life with religious people is that we are a little bit nuts and have the capacity not to see the obvious, loose greater truths in arguing about very minor points, and are so committed to our beliefs that the slightest deviations can be seen as a very major issue. The chances of these different groups of seeing their cults, Gods and practices as one and the same if they really are may possibly be quite limited. Anyway I may be being an idiot here, but I thought Kargzant was analogous with Yelm. Did I get this wrong or is yelm analogous with Yelmalio too?

Not to detract from Martin's sterling work, you can also get a very Gloranthan feel by mixing and matching, parts from different models. I just created a very believable(but unmounted) Grazelander figure by combining late Roman infantry body, Scythian style head and Mongol bow and quiver.

Full scenario up now, its one for your Shamans, magicans and healers; http://www.backtobalazar.com/for-old-times-sake-part-1/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/for-old-times-sake-part2/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/for-old-times-sake-part-iii/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/old-times-sake-part-iv-npc-information/

OK added the write ups of advanced professions for use with the extended character experience above above... http://www.backtobalazar.com/advanced-professions-for-runequest-glorantha/

Looks very nice martin.

id tend to agree maybe an area where the rules need a little polish.

Something I've been working on that you may ( or may not like) http://www.backtobalazar.com/extended-character-profession…/ with some supporting links http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-cultural-…/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-cult-skil…/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-extended-…/ https://docs.google.com/…/1ux8HDgQA4AnNJHLAbX1EaRvT9U…/edit…

OK some more posts ... http://www.backtobalazar.com/extended-character-profession…/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-cultural-…/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-cult-skil…/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/runequest-glorantha-extended-…/ https://docs.google.com/…/1ux8HDgQA4AnNJHLAbX1EaRvT9U…/edit… If people find it useful ill further develop the careers

Ok two more posts http://www.backtobalazar.com/list-of-magic-items-for-sale-at-gon-ortas-castle/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/trollkin-names/

Ok a few posts which haven't been shared on here http://www.backtobalazar.com/sun-dome-character-creation-runequest-glorantha/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/converting-gripping-beasts-28mm-dark-age-warriors-runequest/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/list-items-found-troll-trade-beetle/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/using-28mm-miniatures-for-runequest-plastic-or-metal/ http://www.backtobalazar.com/trollkin-minatures-by-mad-knight-castings-a-review/ I had got lazy and was just posting them of the RQ facebook group

With the Balazarings because are nomadic for the most part, they have the ability to migrate into good hunting grounds, probably with a lot of the game as well, there will be hardship, but nowhere near as hard as with farmbound individuals. Maybe the Windstop would create a full scale evacuation of Elkoi, but with good hunting lands being 5 miles away and its own agriculture not being significant at the moment, it may not be needed. If it is we may see the Citadel inhabited and taken over by all kinds misanthropes, Tusk riders anyone?

Some fair ideas.... Apart from monsters and encounters which will change; The trolls stuff is interesting, will read more The windstop will see a northern migration of the Balazarings in the south, and significant losses at Elkoi and the lunar villages Dykene tribes will have migrated north into danger ground, bear woods and this into greater conflict with trolls ands maybe elves I see post dragonrise the Elkoi garrison being withdrawn as the Provincal Army reorganises Therefore Glyptus becomes a weak vulnerable king and probably soon to be replaced Trilus is the strongest position and maybe becomes expansionist

OK my BacktoBalazar site Publishes a version of Balazar a few years on from Griffin Mountain, but its highly influenced by an previously personal campaign so isn't definitley is not cannon. However things will have moved on. All I have been able to surmise from official sources is Von Enkorth has been reassigned to Pavis. Apart from that change what else do people think would have changes in Balazar since 1617?

Maybe my response was too hard .... and a simple answer isn't easy to do as addictions have many causes , many triggers and many cyclic effects. The point i was trying to make is that for many people much of the time. there is a profound psychological element within addiction. To see it as a case that regard addictive substances and constitutional resistance reduces the nuances of the issues significantly, and possibly plays into the misconceptions about addiction. Addictions can be routed in the chemical, stem from attachment issues or be routed in trauma. My addictive behaviours are attachment based and triggered, so substance based systems don't reflect my experiences of addiction at all.

OK there is an extreme lack of understanding on the nature addictions , the triggers and cycles of addiction being displayed with the thread.

No there was a typo in my previous post that reversed my position entirely. The cult lists and example characters say its available to initiates, I would go with that. I think the use of priests in description is a hold over from the old spell descriptions which wasn't picked up and altered, probably needs jotting down in errata to be picked up.

gut feel its that the spell description was not edited to reflect the change in who can have it.

Just playing with some field of glory celts ..... they create very average or absolutely storming figures.

There have been significant rule changes between RQG and Cults of Prax. Its been almost 40 years you know! In short very few spell are limited to priests or high priestess now.