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This product is licensed under the ORC License held in the Library of Congress
at TX000 [number tbd] and available online at various locations including www.
chaosium.com/orclicense, www.azoralaw.com/orclicense, www.gencon.com/
orclicense and others. All warranties are disclaimed as set forth therein.
This product is the original work of Chaosium.
If you use our ORC Content, please also credit us as follows:
Product Identity elements in this product include all artwork, illustrations, and
graphic design, including runes and geometric symbols that are not part of the
Latin alphabet or Hindu-Arabic numeral system, and all trademarks, including
Call of Cthulhu, Chaosium, Future-World, Magic World, Pendragon, RuneQuest,
Superworld, and Worlds of Wonder.
With a very few exceptions (trademarked terms), the text of BASIC ROLEPLAYING: UNIVERSAL GAME ENGINE is available for personal and commercial
use under the ORC license. The reproduction of artwork, illustrations, graphic
design, and trade dress from this book for the purposes of personal or corporate
profit, by photographic, optical, electronic, or other media or methods of storage
and retrieval, is prohibited

Forgive me for the mild thread necromancy, and forgive me if this is answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find the answer anywhere else.

I understand i can use the entirety of the text to create my own RPG book, but I need to attribute the BRUGE to Chaosium. How much of the quoted text is needed? I know I need to add the logo, and when I am done, there won't be any references to cthulhu or pendragon, etc.

My guess here (and I hope you'll clarify if I'm wrong) is that the paragraph starting with "This product is licensed..." is needed.

The paragraph that starts "Product Identity elements..." would need to be changed to reflect my IP.

The paragraph that starts "With very few exceptions..." ?

I just want to do it right. (Although, given my track record, I'll get a third of the way through and lose interest and it'll never see light of day...)

And so it's said, I don't actually want to use everything in the book. For example, the Introduction will be changed. I don't need to describe Chaosium's history, they do that well enough. And the chapter on settings will go away, since the idea is to use it for my own setting, and that's not needed. Of course, everything will be considered on a case by case basis (buy you all probably already knew all of that, and I'm typing a lot more than I need to. I do tend to ramble...

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16 hours ago, Tolen1 said:

Forgive me for the mild thread necromancy, and forgive me if this is answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find the answer anywhere else.

I understand i can use the entirety of the text to create my own RPG book, but I need to attribute the BRUGE to Chaosium. How much of the quoted text is needed? I know I need to add the logo, and when I am done, there won't be any references to cthulhu or pendragon, etc.

My guess here (and I hope you'll clarify if I'm wrong) is that the paragraph starting with "This product is licensed..." is needed.

The paragraph that starts "Product Identity elements..." would need to be changed to reflect my IP.

The paragraph that starts "With very few exceptions..." ?

I just want to do it right. (Although, given my track record, I'll get a third of the way through and lose interest and it'll never see light of day...)

And so it's said, I don't actually want to use everything in the book. For example, the Introduction will be changed. I don't need to describe Chaosium's history, they do that well enough. And the chapter on settings will go away, since the idea is to use it for my own setting, and that's not needed. Of course, everything will be considered on a case by case basis (buy you all probably already knew all of that, and I'm typing a lot more than I need to. I do tend to ramble...

You may find the ORC AxE (Answers and Explanations) document helpful: 

https://downloads.paizo.com/ORC_AxE_FINAL.pdf

along with the ORC Discord : https://discord.gg/JcHYwyxR8E

All the links are here: https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sico?ORC-License-The-Final-Version-is-Here#1

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On 4/8/2023 at 6:08 AM, Nick Brooke said:

Yes. Chaosium has warehouses in the US, UK, Europe (Poland) and Australia, so once the books arrive and go on sale you’ll be able to order a copy shipped from Poland to Hungary at reasonable rates. And the Chaosium store will be selling physical books long before they’re in any FLGSs (distributors have to get them from our warehouses, just like customers who order direct from Chaosium).

 

I would like to order this from Australia but there don't seem to be any copies in the Australian warehouse right now.

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7 hours ago, Questbird said:

I would like to order this from Australia but there don't seem to be any copies in the Australian warehouse right now.

I'm pretty sure Chaosium has remarked that some sort of shipping/import/customs/etc slowdowns are delaying product arrival at the AUS warehouse, but it's expected... "soon."

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On 11/6/2023 at 4:18 AM, g33k said:

I'm pretty sure Chaosium has remarked that some sort of shipping/import/customs/etc slowdowns are delaying product arrival at the AUS warehouse, but it's expected... "soon."

 

Well then I'd like to purchase the hardback..."soon" too.

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2 hours ago, AJ The Ronin said:

Is there a Word/Indesign template for BRP, like the one for Runequest?

There is currently no BRP "Community Content" program, like the JC for RQ (I presume that's the template you mean?) or the MR for CoC.
 

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2 hours ago, Questbird said:

Well then I'd like to purchase the hardback..."soon" too.

Over on FB, Chaosium dropped the link to the cargo-ship carrying these volumes:
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:733448/mmsi:566950000/imo:9597496/vessel:APL_BOSTON

It's bound for Sydney, due to arrive late-evening the 9th.

No idea what the port situation is, unloading, customs, etc.

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On 11/9/2023 at 11:58 AM, g33k said:

Over on FB, Chaosium dropped the link to the cargo-ship carrying these volumes:
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:733448/mmsi:566950000/imo:9597496/vessel:APL_BOSTON

It's bound for Sydney, due to arrive late-evening the 9th.

No idea what the port situation is, unloading, customs, etc.

 

I can confirm from my recent purchase that the Australian warehouse has stock now 😍

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Just as a status report:

  • We're just sending the updated files to the printer. We can't predict exactly how long it will take to go through existing stock, or how much existing stock is sitting in stores unsold, so we can't say exactly when the updated edition will be available commercially.
  • We'll be making the revised/corrected .pdf available soon.
  • We're also going to be releasing an errata document in the immediate future as well. (it's prepared, but needs some formatting and cleanup)
  • There are some interesting/exciting announcements to come regarding BRP.
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On 2/14/2024 at 6:55 AM, Jason D said:

Just as a status report:

  • We're just sending the updated files to the printer. We can't predict exactly how long it will take to go through existing stock, or how much existing stock is sitting in stores unsold, so we can't say exactly when the updated edition will be available commercially.
  • We'll be making the revised/corrected .pdf available soon.
  • We're also going to be releasing an errata document in the immediate future as well. (it's prepared, but needs some formatting and cleanup)

As it's now a quarter-year along... Can we get an update on the above?

Has the new printing arrived at any (all?) of your warehouses / fulfillment-centers?
How's the first printing stock doing?  Any warehouses run through it, and now shipping the updated book?
(explicitly not requesting any wild guesses flung at FLGS shelves, or their distributors!)

I've got some weird numbering in my BRP:UGE pdf files... they seem to be numbered (in order I d/l'ed them from Chaosium):

  •  _v2
  •  _v1.02
  •  _v1.03

The ordinality of which is... unclear to me.  So I'm going by datestamp on the files to (oddly) say that "_v2" is the oldest one I got.

Is the errata document formatted and cleaned up?  If not, is there any rough timeline or ETA for that?

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On 5/21/2024 at 10:12 AM, g33k said:

As it's now a quarter-year along... Can we get an update on the above?

Has the new printing arrived at any (all?) of your warehouses / fulfillment-centers?
How's the first printing stock doing?  Any warehouses run through it, and now shipping the updated book?
(explicitly not requesting any wild guesses flung at FLGS shelves, or their distributors!)

I've got some weird numbering in my BRP:UGE pdf files... they seem to be numbered (in order I d/l'ed them from Chaosium):

  •  _v2
  •  _v1.02
  •  _v1.03

The ordinality of which is... unclear to me.  So I'm going by datestamp on the files to (oddly) say that "_v2" is the oldest one I got.

Is the errata document formatted and cleaned up?  If not, is there any rough timeline or ETA for that?

In order: 

1. The errata is being worked on. It had to take a back burner to other projects. 

2. I'm a line editor, and don't control or have visibility on stock flow. It's back from the printer and is in our warehouses internationally, but there's no clear line between the first print run and the second in terms of product availability or even the labeling on the boxes (also outside our control). Our distributors request copies and we send them from our regional warehouses, and have zero control over whether the warehouse workers (not Chaosium employees) pull the books out of an older box or a newer one, or what happens to those books after they leave our warehouse. In other words, the information you want is just not available. The ISBN numbers for the different print runs are identical. 

3. v1.03 is the newest print edition. The v2 was for the prior-to-printer .pdf. The first to-print version is always 1.0X. Again, this is not something I can control, as we have been told that distributors find it confusing to get a first printing labeled anything other than v1. 

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On 5/21/2024 at 8:12 AM, g33k said:

As it's now a quarter-year along... Can we get an update on the above?

Has the new printing arrived at any (all?) of your warehouses / fulfillment-centers?
How's the first printing stock doing?  Any warehouses run through it, and now shipping the updated book?
(explicitly not requesting any wild guesses flung at FLGS shelves, or their distributors!)

I've got some weird numbering in my BRP:UGE pdf files... they seem to be numbered (in order I d/l'ed them from Chaosium):

  •  _v2
  •  _v1.02
  •  _v1.03

The ordinality of which is... unclear to me.  So I'm going by datestamp on the files to (oddly) say that "_v2" is the oldest one I got.

Is the errata document formatted and cleaned up?  If not, is there any rough timeline or ETA for that?

According to an Acrobat comparison summary, 3000+ edits: a little under a thousand replacements, a little over a thousand insertions, and a little under a thousand deletions; some styling changes as well.

I haven't had an opportunity to go deeper into the report yet to see the extent of changes, however in the first few listings I did see version additions listed in text, and some typos. 

Lets leave @Jason D alone on this... He has Lords of the Middle Sea to finish!! 🙃

SDLeary

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On 5/21/2024 at 5:21 PM, Peter Fitz said:

I have been (slowly) reformatting the ORC BR:UGE PDF to A5 format, and I've split it into 3 volumes for ease of handling.

I have links to the PDFs on my website at https://mojobob.com/roleplay/roleplay.html

I've done all the layout in LibreOffice, and it's all pure styled text, no illustrations at all except for the BR:UGE logo in the front-page boilerplate.

I've slapped all three together back into a single volume, which is more convenient for on-screen use I think. I've gone through it and added an alphabetical index as well -- it's the first time I've tried this, and I'm not 100% sure I've done it the best way, but there it is. The index isn't hyperlinked, and I don't know how to do that.

The PDF file is at https://mojobob.com/roleplay/BasicRoleplaying-ORC-0-Everything.pdf and is about 8.25 MB

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On 6/16/2024 at 10:52 AM, Peter Fitz said:

I've slapped all three together back into a single volume, which is more convenient for on-screen use I think. I've gone through it and added an alphabetical index as well -- it's the first time I've tried this, and I'm not 100% sure I've done it the best way, but there it is. The index isn't hyperlinked, and I don't know how to do that.

The PDF file is at https://mojobob.com/roleplay/BasicRoleplaying-ORC-0-Everything.pdf and is about 8.25 MB

All the PDFs are now also up on this forum's Downloads area.

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On 4/12/2023 at 11:55 AM, hix said:

new publishers risk running afoul of (c) laws

Only if you are directly copying text or using owned IPs. If you're making your own class and level d20 fantasy heartbreaker, you never needed the OGL. The OSR could have lived without it, because you can't copyright mechanics. If this is incorrect it's news to me.

Part of the reason for the ORC license has to do with some subtlety around copyright being automatic:(https://www.copyright.gov/what-is-copyright/#:~:text=What is copyright registration%3F,step is registering the work.)

Chaosium automatically has copyright over their works . If there is no license and you copy their stuff, you are at risk of lawsuit either from the current owners of Chaosium or by some future owners.  The ORC license would be Chaosium explicitly waiving that right. 

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28 minutes ago, Ian Ollmann said:

Part of the reason... 

Holy comment necro. Yeah, that's it and it's great. That's why I've written three ORC licensed books.

 

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On 5/22/2024 at 11:29 AM, Jason D said:

1. The errata is being worked on. It had to take a back burner to other projects. 

Any update on the progress of this?  It has been over half a year since the release of 1.03.

 

We still don't have an errata document for changes from 1.02 to 1.03.
We still don't have an updated .rtf file that matches 1.03 - it contains the same text as 1.02.

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if anyone has errata, we can drop it in at https://brpugesrd.xyz, but I'd need someone's errata (even unofficial)

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