Mechashef Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Can these two spells be cast on the same target or are they incompatible? Sunbright: Quote gives the recipient the equivalent of a Shimmer 2 spell. And Quote Each point of Shield gives the wearer 2 points of magical armor and 2 points of Countermagic (equivalent to the spirit magic spell). The effects of this spell are cumulative with wither Protection or Countermagic . Shimmer is incompatible with Countermagic, Protection and Spirit Screen. I can see arguments for allowing the spells to be compatible, and also arguments for them being incompatible. What are people's opinions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 It says "the equivalent of", not "the actual spell" so I'd say it's legal. We're dealing with god magic here, who cares if it's balanced? I do wonder at the in-world reasons for spirit magic incompatibility though. Do protection and shimmer spirits just not get along? "Damn you you blurry excuse for a defense spirit! Just stand there and take the damage like a real man!" 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Richard S. said: It says "the equivalent of", not "the actual spell" so I'd say it's legal. We're dealing with god magic here, who cares if it's balanced? I do wonder at the in-world reasons for spirit magic incompatibility though. Do protection and shimmer spirits just not get along? "Damn you you blurry excuse for a defense spirit! Just stand there and take the damage like a real man!" I think the reason is 'compatibility with RQ2'. Joke aside, I think you are right and 'equivalent' does not mean 'same', so it should be legal. After all, it is not written 'forbidden'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 As I understand it, the general rule Rune magic is compatible with similar spells, Spirit magic is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, jps said: As I understand it, the general rule Rune magic is compatible with similar spells, Spirit magic is not. It's a bit more complicated than that, but yes, there is more incompatibility in Spirit than in Rune magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 There are probably some exceptions but, in a nutshell, ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soltakss Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/11/2019 at 3:30 AM, Mechashef said: Can these two spells be cast on the same target or are they incompatible? Yes, they are compatible. Countermagic/Shimmer/Protection are not compatible, but, by and large, Runespells that contain them are, unless they are stated not to be. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, soltakss said: Yes, they are compatible. Countermagic/Shimmer/Protection are not compatible, but, by and large, Runespells that contain them are, unless they are stated not to be. The Countermagic debate with respect to e.g. Berserk and whether you can cast rune magic on top of it or whether you trigger the spell doing it in that sequence still isn't decided... Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Joerg said: The Countermagic debate with respect to e.g. Berserk and whether you can cast rune magic on top of it or whether you trigger the spell doing it in that sequence still isn't decided... It is for me. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 The Berserk Countermagic effect is fairly trivial - if it does work just like Countermagic like it says, it goes down as soon as the first spell hits it, and a 2 point Rune Spell or a 1 point with 2 MP boosting it will blow right through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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