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I look at the Yelmalio /Elmal dichotomy as two cultures differing interpretations of the same ideal: that of Duty Before Glory. Whether Elmal and Yelmalio are the same or separate gods is almost unimportant, except for certain doctrinaire pedants [it must be said that these are FAR more prevalent in cult of Yelmalio than that of Elmal]. Now, there will always be conflict between Storm and Sky, which means you're not going to get Yelmalions and Elmalists to kiss and make up any time soon. But the fact remains that Elmal DOES have a place in the Storm pantheon and some Sartarite clans use Elmal as their divine road to Orlanth. The major difference between Elmal and Yelmalio IMG is that Yelmalio goes marching around looking for glory and has abandoned their horse aspect and Elmal is more focused on horsemanship and protecting the clan tula. And one wonders what a Shield Push game between the two cult groups might turn out like. Probably a brawl with some rules thrown in it.... 😁

I'll be brief....

Some key points about civil wars from a Terran historical prospective: - The unrest usually starts when there is a large economic disparity. 'The haves and the have-nots' so to speak. There is a very small class of wealth and privilege but the large majority are struggling just to stay fed, warm, and dry. This builds up the resentments that lead to the next point. - A huge gap in political opinion, for example in the Spanish Civil War on one side you had the Royalists /Carlist faction that supported the old Imperial regime and on the other you had radical anarchists who wanted to burn the whole structure of society down and start over. - Issues that include rights and privileges of a minority people [as in US slavery] are also one of the fuses that will spark a war. - But it should be said that only under the most egregious circumstances is one party totally 'right' and the other totally 'wrong'. Even the Confederacy had legitimate complaints about the Federal government... an most of those points are still be argued about today 160 years later. Remember that one side's justice is often the other side's atrocity. - And speaking of atrocities, EVERY civil war features them. The situation that sparks a civil war has gone way past compromise or moderate opinion. Hatreds have formed and anybody on the other side, or for that matter anyone who doesn't support your side with sufficient zeal, is 'the enemy' and they will be disposed of in all sorts of nasty ways. Anyway, I hope that adds some grist for your mill. Good luck with your project!

So, I'm a Civil War reenactor, historian, and lifetime gamer. There's a whole genre of US Civil War wargames out there, but that's not what you're really looking for. Traveller did an entire edition where the Emperor and his family were assassinated and the Third Imperium fragmented into regional factions, each fighting each other and vying for the Iridium Throne at the same time. Meanwhile, several external enemies took the opportunity to attack for various reasons. That edition was called MegaTraveller and you can find all of the materials on drivethru. A sci-fi TV series that does a good job of portraying issues that could lead up to a civil war was 'Space: Above and Beyond'. It only ran for one season of 23 episodes, though like Babylon 5 there was a plot arc that was supposed to run for 5. If you're a veteran, there will be some truly cringeworthy moments [trained fighter pilots who get sent off to play grunt games on a regular basis, for example], but it's got plot elements that I think might inspire you. From a historian's standpoint there are several real-world civil wars that bear looking at, not just the American Civil War. - First is the granddaddy of all 'modern' civil wars, the English Civil War of 1640-1651. 'Cavaliers and Roundheads' etc. - The second I'd suggest looking at is the Bolshevik Civil War of 1917-1925. - The third one is the Spanish Civil War 1935-1939. - And the last one is the Breakup of Yugoslavia in the 1990s. All of these have succinct wikipedia articles that can give you a good grasp and overview.

Cross post from yesterday. Chaosium announced a street date for the Gods of Glorantha SERIES of books! Here is the youtube announcement from yesterday:

I originally posted to the Glorantha forum and it's gotten a lot of traffic there.

Otherwise known as 'Team Geezer' 😁

And Elmal is a Storm god, so he will likely be in the Storm Pantheon book.

True words.

Not 3 months ago, people were complaining about no new RQG content while Gods of Glorantha was being worked on. That's what I mean. I think we can consider 'the logjam' to be cleared in August if the GenCon volumes are released on time. Meanwhile Jonstown Compendium will continue to offer us excellent content. So I honestly don't see why some folks are griping.

Jesus... What's with the griping, folks? The log jam is clearing, we're getting official content this year. Proserpaedia in July Storm and Earth Pantheons at GenCon [AUG] Mythology by Q4, so Christmas or so. The Lunars in Q1 and as many as 5 more books in 2024. We said we LIKED Chaosium because it wasn't Wizards of Hasbro or Paizo, with a new hardback released every other month. We said we appreciated the quality and consistency of the info and the artwork. We said we like the amount of actual usable content for the price point, instead of filling the book with art and less than half of it game related text. AND WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE WANTED. So exactly WT actual F are some of you complaining about?

Hey, at least we have an actual announcement and street date. That's DEFINITELY farther along the road than we, the book buying public, were yesterday.

Posted to youtube 1 hour ago! Cults of Glorantha is HERE!!!

Posted to youtube 1 hour ago CULTS OF GLORANTHA IS HERE!

Either one or both would be great and ;ong looked forward to.

NICE! Hope all works out well.

There is Worlds Beyond, a d100 Traveller-esque setting available on drivethru. [link below] It's fairly simplistic and very '80' in flavor. Someone did a BRP conversion of the 2300AD setting as well. [link to DTRPG page for Worlds Beyond] https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355945/Worlds-Beyond-Classic-Reprint

Sometimes Hope is just too stupid to die... like those folks who spend $100 a week on lotto tickets 😁

I would be stoked if it was the CRPG. OTOH, I'm kinda terrified at what it might be....

Hope springs eternal....

Hey folks, do we know if the artist did this specifically as a piece of RQ art? If so, he got a couple of details wrong. The overall look and spirit of the piece is just fine however. If not, then we're all probably nit picking too much. Either way it's still a great piece of art and one that I've saved for future use. With attribution to Mr. Fetisov, of course.

You might be right. It's just my opinion. Slarges are not in RQG Bestiary, but IIRC there are some in odd corners of Seshnela as well, though very rare. But there's a range of skin tones in Pamaltela, though admittedly the general run of Humans are of darker tones. I don't see it completely out of the question that two pale skinned warriors are in or from the Southern continent.

WOW. You just inadvertently helped me a lot! I'm teaching some young women in my family RQ and I hope this illo will be inspiring for them. And I LOVE the look on the 'Amazon' with the broken spear on the bottom-right. The Big Ugly Lizard has her dead to rights and she knows it. She's taken her best shot and all it did was leave her vulnerable. The expression of fury, fear, and a large dose of 'OH SHIT!' is wonderful. As for the creature it's too big to be a beaked dragonewt, at least from scale charts in various sources, so I'm going to guess that it is a Slarge.

1. No insult is intended in any way, shape, or form. 'If it were my table' is just another way of saying 'if it were my decision'. You will do what you think is good for your group and there isn't a single thing I could do to stop you - - and I never intended to stop you to begin with. Your Glorantha Will Vary. 2. I apologize that you feel insulted. 3. Yes, I sometimes do trip up and misread or misinterpret the OP. It's a bad habit and one that I work on.

Were it at my table, I would find the rewards for 'Dragon of Thunder Hills' entirely sufficient for a party of PCs. I'd be concerned about overloading player expectations that similar Monty Hauls were in their future, in addition to having to up-gun their future opponents. If they wanted the dragonskin armor, they can be required to return King Benevenos's grave goods to his tomb with the thanks of a grateful Colymar tribe. And by 'thanks' I mean 'honoring him annually with gifts and magic points'. In fact, if you were ref'ing a clan relationship properly, it's not entirely out of the question that the clan chief or tribal king/queen demand the dragon's skin to become part of the tribal regalia or ancestral treasures. There is a danger to a game of 'combat creep', where combat in RQ loses its edge and players start to think that they can wade through hoards of trollkin without getting hurt. Once your AP exceeds 10, that creep can become reality. High-speed/low-drag armor and weaponry should be awarded one at a time in RQ, not in huge mounds like it was some Forgotten Realms game. One of a referee's most difficult problems in any game is managing player greed for 'everything good, all at once'. That is what I'm talking about.