MachinaMandala Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I'm looking for language "examples" for Glorantha, or at least ideas on what the languages should theoretically sound like. Does anyone have any clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, MachinaMandala said: I'm looking for language "examples" for Glorantha, or at least ideas on what the languages should theoretically sound like. Does anyone have any clue? The Entekosiad, Glorious Reascent of Yelm, and the Fortunate Succession provide various (ancient) names and words, but the best source, gleaned from various sources, is the pronunciation of Gloranthan names (which are derived from a variety of languages....): Stressed syllables are capitalized. Consonants are always hard, and pronounced only one way. All S’s are sibilant; all Z-sounds are written with Z. RR is rolled R. The soft J is written ZH. A short-O is written O; a broad-O is written AU; a long-O is written OE. A short-A is written A; a broad-A is written AH; a long-A is written AE. A short-E is written E or HE; a long-E is written EE. A short-I is written I or IH; a long-I is written IGH. A short-U is written U or UH; a long-U is written OO. The letter Y is always pronounced as it is in “yawn”. OI as in “coin” is written for pronunciation as OY. An apostrophe indicates an extremely compressed short-I sound. Deities Acos AE-koes Aether AY-ther Aldrya AL-drih-uh Aleshmara ahl-ESH-mah-RRAH Annilla an-NIL-ah Arachne Solara a-RAK-nee soe-LAHR-ah Araganthosas AR-ah-gan-thoe-sus Aranea AR-uh-NAE-uh Argan Argar AR-gan AR-gar Arkat AR-kat Artmal ART-mahl Arroin ar-ROYN Asrelia az-REE-lee-ah Atyar AT-yar Babeester Gor BAH-bees-ter GORE Bagog ba-GOG Bolongo boe-LONG-goe Brastalos BRASS-tal-ohs Cacodemon KAK-oe-DEE-mun Chalana Arroy chah-LAH-nuh a-ROY Cronisper KRRON-is-per Daga DAH-gah Daka Fal DAH-ka FAHL Daruda dah-ROO-duh Danfive Xaron DAN-five ZAR-un Donandar duh-NAN-dahr Dayzatar dah-ZAE-tar Dehore dae-HOR-ay Dehori dee-HOR-ee Dendara den-DAHR-uh Donandar duh-NAN-dahr Dormal DOR-mahl Drospoly dros-POE-lee Ehilm EE-hilmE iritha igh-REE-thuh Ernalda er-NAHL-duh Etyries eh-TEER-eez Eurmal YUR-mahl Faranar FARR-an-ahrr Flamal FLAM-ahl Framanthe fruh-MAN-thuh Ga GAH Gagarth guh-GARTH Gark GARK Gata GAH-tah Gbaji g’BAH-jee Genert GEN-ert Geo JO Gerlant GER-lant Ginna Jar GIN-nuh JAR Glorantha glor-AN-thuh Godunya goe-DOON-yah Golod GOE-lod Gorakiki GOR-ah-KEE-kee Gorgorma gor-GOR-mah Gustbran GUST-bran Harana Ilor ah-RAH-nah ee-LOR Heler HEL-er Himile hih-MEEL Hobimarong HOE-bee-mah-RONG Hon-eel hah-NEEL Hrestol H’RES-tuhl Humakt HEW-makt Hwarin Dalthippa h’WAH-ren dahl-THIP-uh Hyalor HIGH-ah-lor Hykim HIGH-kim Ikadz EE-kadz Inora ee-NOR-uh Iphara ee-FAR-ah Irripi Ontor i-RIP-ee ON-tor Issaries IS-sar-eez Jalakeel JAHK-uh-LEEL Jeset JEH-set Jmijie zh’MEE-zheh Kajaboor KAHZH-ah-bor Kargan Tor KAR-gan TOR Keraun kerr-AHN Kolat KOE-laht Krarsht KRARSHT Krjalk kur-JAHLK Kropa KROH-puh Kyger Litor KIGH-ger LEE-tor Lamsabi lam-SAH-bee Lanbril LAN-bril Larnste LAHRN-stay Lhankor Mhy LANK-er MIGH Lodril LOE-dril Lokarnos loh-KAR-noes Lorian LOR-ee-an Lumavoxoran loom-ah-VOKS-oe-ran Lux LUKS Magasta mah-GAH-stah Mahome mah-HOE-may Malia MAL-ee-uh Malkion MAL-kee-on Manthi MAN-thee Maran Gor MAH-rahn GOR Mastakos mah-STAH-koes Mee Vorala MEE voh-RAH-lah Metsyla met-SIGH-lah Mikaday MIK-uh-dae Mikyh MIK-yuh Mirintha meer-IN-thah Molanni moe-LAHN-ee Mostal MOS-tul Molokka mol-OK-kuh Murthdrya murth-DRIGH-ah Nakala nuh-KAHL-uh Natea na-TAY-ah Nelat NEE-lat Noruma noe-RROO-mah Nyanka n’YAHNK-uh Nysalor NIGH-suh-lor Oakfed OEK-fed Odayla oe-DAE-lah Ompalam OM-pah-lom Orenoar OR-en-OE-ar Orlanth OR-lanth Ourania oo-RAEN-ih-yah Pamalt PAM-ahlt Paslac PAZ-lak Phargon FAR-gon Pocharngo poe-CHARN-goe Polaris POE-lehr-is Ragnaglar rag-NAG-lar Rashoran RAHSH-ohe-ran Rasout rrah-SOOT Ratslaff RATS-laf Saliligor sah-LIL-ih-gor Seseine seh-SAEN-ay Selarn sel-ARN Seolinthur see-ohe-LIN-ther Shavaya shah-VIGH-ah Sikkanos sik-KAHN-oes Slor SLOR Sokazub SOAK-ah-zub Styx STIKS Subere soo-BEER-ee Swems SWEHMZ Talor TAE-lor Teelo Noori TEE-loe NOR-ee Telask teh-LASK Thalurzni thal-ERZ-nee Than THAN Thanatar THAN-uh-tar Thed THED Tholaina thoe-LAEN-ah Tien t’YEN Triolina TREE-oe-LEE-nah Tsankth t’SANKTH Ty Kora Tek TIGH kor-uh TEK Tylenea TIGH-len-EE-ah Uleria yoo-LEHR-ee-ah Umath OO-math Umbrol UM-brahl Vadrus VAE-drus Valind val-IND Valkaro VAL-kuh-roe Valzain val-ZAEN Vangono vang-GOE-noe Varchulanga VAR-choo-LANG-gah Vivamort VEE-vuh-mort Voria VOR-ee-ah Vovisibor vo-VEE-si-borr Vrimak VREE-mak Wachaza wah-CHAH-zah Waertag WEHR-tag Waha WAH-hah Wakboth WAK-both Worlath WOR-lath Xemela zeh-MEL-uh Xentha ZEN-thah Xiola Umbar zee-OE-lah UM-bar Yamsur YAM-sir Yanafal Tarnils YAHN-uh-fahl TAR-nilz Yanmorla yan-MORR-lah Yara Aranis YAH-rah ah-RAHN-is Yelm YELM Yelmalio yel-MAL-ee-oe Yelorna yeh-LOR-nah Yinkin YING-kin Zaktirra zak-TEERR-ah Zaramaka ZAH-rah-MAH-kah Zong ZONG Zorak Zoran zoe-RAK zoe-RAN Zzabur zah-BOOR Places Argentium Thri’ile ahr-GENT-ee-um THREE-ee-leh Dagori Inkarth Da-GOR-ee IN-karth Dara Happa DAH-ra HAH-pah Genertela GEN-ert-EL-ah Jrusteli j’russ-TEL-i Kralorela KRAY-lor-EL-ah Pamaltela PAM-ahlt-EL-ah Tanisor TAN-ih-sor Umathela OO-math-EL-ah People Belintar BEL-in-tar Delecti di-LEK-tie Edited December 19, 2017 by M Helsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinaMandala Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 This is great, thanks. It's mostly that I'm putting together a mod for a game which randomly generates names, but it needs a language file for each culture. I've got a program that can take a small input and make it into a large library, but I just need examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 See here: https://basicroleplaying.net/conlang/index.php?lang-group=fantasy, glorantha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 hours ago, MachinaMandala said: This is great, thanks. It's mostly that I'm putting together a mod for a game which randomly generates names, but it needs a language file for each culture. I've got a program that can take a small input and make it into a large library, but I just need examples. You can probably find Tolkien's languages online. Multiple Elven dialects, Dwarven, more... Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinaMandala Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 16 hours ago, jeffjerwin said: See here: https://basicroleplaying.net/conlang/index.php?lang-group=fantasy, glorantha Ideal! Do you know if it's possible to download the outputs as text files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:23 AM, MachinaMandala said: Ideal! Do you know if it's possible to download the outputs as text files? Talk to https://basicroleplaying.org/profile/5189-septimus-kendaro/. He created that very useful tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 7:07 PM, g33k said: You can probably find Tolkien's languages online. Multiple Elven dialects, Dwarven, more... Indeed, when I was working with ICE on MERP, this was the guy to communicate with: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/David_Salo. He's pretty prominent in the Conlang circles. Here's his blog: https://midgardsmal.com. You could also visit Ardalambion at https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/, which is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Also, this is my extremely tentative Theyalan word and root list: al plant alda grower, bearer aldra tree -and, -anth ?mighty, great [viz. Andrin] -angar ar- fixing, holding -ar clan, binding, gathering, plural group suffix arkat, argrat[h] liberator [binding-breaker] -arsh[a] ruler, builder as-, -asar -asin bab[h]a axe, adze, rel. to Aldryami ‘pierce, stab’ ba-be bar- [verb] to cut, plow -born bran bronze, ruddy bren- broya- coli-, coly-, koli- dalya- da[r]- [verb] to judge, decide, think dang dar chief -doli, -dola dona[r] [verb] to make music dor- droga[r] [verb] to write, record el- light, brightness elas-a inspiration el+lasa elga- -elya,-alya sky, celestial elm[a] sun -endol -endra en- stream, flow eng- river er- feminine prefix? es-, as- rich esel treasury, storehouse, subterranean granary eser barley esta- eva, evi, -of sheep ezz, izz sky [viz. elya] [Kitori dialect?] fin mountain fral- predator -ga daughter, maiden gand- [verb] garn gav[r] [verb] to hunt gard -gart[h] breaking, dividing garzeen middleman, ?apportioner -gi son, youth -gor[a] woman gord- gust- beater, hammerer? hara beloved [lit., dear friend] har- [verb] to agree, befriend harl harst barter -hart, he[o]rt hel[a] rain, water, sweet (fresh) water hend- burn hendrik burner hev[r] [verb] to chase hu- sword hyal- horse in- ing[a]- child inta- jan- jen- jolsa[r]- [verb] to flay, skin jolsedar ‘brain-flayer’, lit. ‘flay-thoughts’ jora- jost -ka respectful feminine suffix kal- deep, high, intense kali, kala mighty, great, excellent kar high, first karulinoran first stead [of Orlanth] kero, kora lady ki shadow korl shout -la a feat, secret, mystery -lai, lei –lain jump, kick -lant[h] mastery -lar[n]- travel? lhank- comprehension -lusu trickster -lyr, -lir mag-, mak- ocean, salt water? maho- hearth makt warrior man[n]- bondsman manis- mar mara[r] [verb] to shake, tremble mas[t] -met minlis libation mo- emotion mola[r]- [verb] to dance [mo+la[r]] mur- cat, purr na mother nana mama neva ewe oda- bear or air orl wind, voice, spirit qui- -ra, -sa female suffix, -er, -or, -ess, -orix ran-, -ran stead, farm? -ren beast, domestic creature reda, redi (horse), lit. mare, stallion -ri, -si male suffix –er,-or -rick, -reik, -rik -ries trade? roba- ros- sart- skova[r]- [verb] to entertain, delight -sta -stal[i/a] stard- -sten -tal[os] tar- blue tark- tarkal- ?enamel, dark blue tema[r]- tor, ter lord, master tossi ul-, ule[r] desire, to love, genitals, commune [root word] ulin- community, clan ur- male animal, randy, penis urol ram umat[h] storm vale, vala- vel- wild ven ver- vin- red, red-haired (auburn)? vor- boy vora girl -vos yink alynx yuh- gold, yellow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonL Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 4:51 PM, M Helsdon said: Humakt HEW-makt I still don't know from this weather the first syllable is supposed to sound like "hyo͞o" or ""ho͞o" - the pronunciation guide at the top of your posts suggests that the "E" should be a short vowel, which would really surprise me if that's accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, JonL said: I still don't know from this weather the first syllable is supposed to sound like "hyo͞o" or ""ho͞o" - the pronunciation guide at the top of your posts suggests that the "E" should be a short vowel, which would really surprise me if that's accurate. A more recent source gives h’YOO-makt. http://www.glorantha.com/docs/humakt/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelm's Light Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Always been Hoo-makt to me. Hugh-makt just sounds silly, and it's certainly not what would be called common pronunciation in RW linguistics. Edit: Actually, to make it fully representational, that should be Hoo-mokt... Edited December 23, 2017 by Yelm's Light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I believe the original and correct pronunciation is Huey-makt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, jeffjerwin said: I believe the original and correct pronunciation is Huey-makt. That, sir, is deeper magic, from before the Dawn of Time. 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian McReynolds Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 On 22/12/2017 at 2:33 AM, jeffjerwin said: I believe the original and correct pronunciation is Huey-makt. We'll have less of those quack-pot theories! (No? I'll get my coat...) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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