Sir_Godspeed Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 In the Sourcebook, in the section about the Runes, the Truth Rune is said to be have been used by "The Grey Ones" to protect them during the creation of Glorantha/the Cosmos. Who are the Grey Ones? Is it a synonym for the Cosmic Court/Glorantay, or a other/equivalent group drawn from some specific mythos, or just an obscure allusion for text flavour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leingod Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sir_Godspeed said: In the Sourcebook, in the section about the Runes, the Truth Rune is said to be have been used by "The Grey Ones" to protect them during the creation of Glorantha/the Cosmos. Who are the Grey Ones? Is it a synonym for the Cosmic Court/Glorantay, or a other/equivalent group drawn from some specific mythos, or just an obscure allusion for text flavour? Sartar: Kingdom of Heroes presents them as a sub-cult of Lhankor Mhy, and has this to say about them: Quote The Gray Ones were a group who avoided Chaos and found the way to safety before the onset of Time. It is from them that the cult learned the art of making maps, but they also taught the art of copying documents so that the cult could better preserve knowledge. Many cult lesser gods are Gray Ones, and it is because of them that worshipers originally gained the common nickname of "Gray Sages." And that seems to be all that's known about them as far as I can tell. Edited January 28, 2019 by Leingod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 I might've misread the section then. It probably referred to protection from Chaos DURING the God Time, and not during the initial Creation, as it were. Still interesting, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir_Godspeed said: In the Sourcebook, in the section about the Runes, the Truth Rune is said to be have been used by "The Grey Ones" to protect them during the creation of Glorantha/the Cosmos. Who are the Grey Ones? This particular snippet of lore has been around for a long time. RQII, Sartar KoH and HeroQuest Glorantha said much the same: Quote TRUTH - A Rune of the ancient, all seeing sky gods. Said to represent the torch which the grey ones used to escape from Chaos. However it's in Greg's notes that we learn that there are 12 of them, then later in some of his campaign writings in the 80s we learn that they are the first gods that separate from Chaos - self-conceived within the womb of Chaos. Their children were the quarterlords - the elements. It's of western origin, but known by everyone on the norther continent. 1 hour ago, Leingod said: Is it a synonym for the Cosmic Court/Glorantay, or a other/equivalent group drawn from some specific mythos, or just an obscure allusion for text flavour? Yes. 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlepig Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 could be space aliens. just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Wrestlepig said: could be space aliens. just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 If anyone is interested, there are a lot of references to Grey Ones (Gray Ones) from Sandy's old early 80's campaign. You can find version 3.1 of the log HERE, chronicled by Jeff Okamoto. SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I wonder how many of those references might be to the Grey Giants, a species of giants described briefly in the RQ3 Gloranthan Bestiary (possibly the most useful and inspiring Glorantha publication next to parts of the Genertela Box and Gods of Glorantha of the pre-renaissance RQ3 era). Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDLeary Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I don't have my copy to consult, but the references start in the Genertelan portion of the campaign, and continue to the Pamaltelan. And at least one refers to parents of deities... Quote The first thing we did was to go to the temple to Cronisper and Yanmorla. When asked who the Gray Ones were, the priest replied that they are the fathers of the gods. When asked where the biggest temple to Cronisper and Yanmorla were, he replied that the biggest one was in Kresh territory, but that there was a smaller one at the Three Pines Oasis in Jolar which was about 320 kilometers to the southwest.” Excerpt From: Jeff Okamoto. “RuneQuest Campaign Log.” Apple Books. I'd quote the page, but I'm looking at the ePub right now. Now to be fair, this could simply be trickster Sandy leading us along. A favorite pastime of his on the campaign. SDLeary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-martin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 The old giants. Cults of Prax: The eight weeks are named after eight Powers or "grey gods." These divinities are often forgotten in temporal reality. Quote singer sing me a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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