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  2. Can we argue about how many pins we can stick n the head of an angel?
  3. Jeff

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    This is addressed in Gods and Goddesses. Sleep is not taught outside of the cult. RQG was long enough that it made no sense deep diving into every cult.
  4. Atgxtg

    What Was Constantine Thinking?

    My pet theory was that there was something wrong with Constans (the eldest son). I figured Constatin got married and eight years later he has a son. The son is put into the care of the church, to be raised until he is ready to be squired, but there was something wrong with the boy. Something that made him suitable as an heir. Maybe he had some sort of mental defect, or a physical one or other health issue. Perhaps he was prone to seizure or something? Perhaps a combination of things. Whatever it was, it was something that would make him unsuitable to be a King, if it were known -especially in the British Isles, where the king was considered to have a symbolic tie with the land and any defects in the king would be reflected in the land. Anyway, when Aurelius is born ten years later, and then Uther in 436, Constaintin knew he has two other sons, and so had Constans become a monk. Probably with some cover story about how devout he is and so forth. This gets him out of the picture, and lets the church take care of him, with the idea that Aurelius would be the heir. The other sons might have been raised by the church just in case one of them had the same "defect" that Constans had. Then Constatin is murdered and Vortigern uses his influence to had Constans made king. Now those who knew the boy was unfit were probably sworn to reveal it, and the general public (and probably most of the nobles) were unaware that Constans was unfit and so saw no problem wit the situation. Vortigern then is able to do pretty much whatever he wanted as, according to the sources , Costains was just happy to be the king and didn't want to be bothered with the running of the kingdom. I suspect Aurelius and Uther would have been squired off to someone, probably King Aldren in Brittany, once they were the right age, but Constantin died before it got to that point, and then Constans as well. Remember Aurelius was only around 10 years old when Vortgern took over, and wouldn't be ready to become a squire for several more years.
  5. No offense taken. We hate you right back 😘
  6. No, but he's petted the cat....
  7. Yeah, my copy of the RQG rules was signed by Greg. Now I wish my damned FLGS' distributor would get off the stick and stock the slipcase edition so I can retire the signed copy to the preservation it deserves.
  8. Today
  9. Hmmmmm. You know the Great Shaman Schrodinger, then?
  10. Ravian

    What Was Constantine Thinking?

    I mean theoretically Monasteries can be a fair option to get your kid educated, after all monks are some of the most educated people around. The issue of course is that Constans seems to have taken to the monastic environment too well, and his father never took him out of that monastery, whereas Aurelius and Uther managed to get a solid military education during their flight to Brittany. It's possible that Contantine overestimated how effectively he could craft a stable kingdom during his reign, possibly naively viewing that he could create some New Rome or something. With that mindset, he possibly considered that it would be more effective for his heir to be educated and intelligent enough to maintain the kingdom after he forged it through war and politics. Unfortunately he ended up just creating a bookworm and Vortigern saw that he was severely unready for the practical realities of politics.
  11. g33k

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    ... Except when: 1) the text in question is available for purchase at chaosium.com, 2) back-compatibility is a stated design-goal of the modern edition, and 3) cut&paste from RQ2 to RQG is broadly evident, and thus likely from CoP to GaGoG. I mean, sure, I /DO/ see the munchkin line of argument... but it's about as durable as a snowflake on midsummer in the Sahara...
  12. g33k

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    TYVM!!! Also, may I reiterate at this point in time HOW MUCH IT SUCKS for there to be multiple "official" channels where the answers can be scattered and buried beyond any hope of rediscovery barring the efforts of noble HeroQuestors such as PhilHibbs!
  13. Bought the Book of Sires a few days ago, been poring over it since, definitely a lot of fun. I like most of the changes or elaborations it's made on the lore, and also I generally find Vortigern pretty interesting when you read between the lines and notice that a lot of his initial policies were carried forward by the Pendragons (which in earlier books were usually attributed to the Pendragons themselves, and is something I could see happening in-universe over time, as no one wants to associate good ideas with a hated tyrant, so it's a nice touch). But it also raised a question: What was Constantine (III) thinking in regards to the succession? He was appointed High King in 415, presumably as an adult. He married a daughter of Coel Hen immediately after, and eight years later she gives birth to Constans, his heir apparent... who Constantine then hands over to a monastery in Winchester. Then Constans does basically the same thing with both Aurelius Ambrosius ten years later and Uther three years after that. And apparently by the time of his death 25 years into his reign Constans is still at that monastery. What did Constantine think would happen when he died? He doesn't seem to have done anything to prepare any of his sons for becoming rulers, he seems to have just thrown them to the monks and then forgotten they existed. Constans was a bookish boy with no experience and no real credit with the people of Britain outside of his lineage, and it took fast talking from Vortigern, the most powerful king in Cambria, just to get him the crown of Logres, let alone Britain. It would be one thing if Constantine just didn't want the High Kingship to become hereditary, or wanted someone else to rule other than his sons... but there's no indication that Constantine did anything at all with regards to succession. If he had anyone or any alternate method in mind, it was never brought up in the timelines. 25 years of rule, and in all that time he never did anything to make sure things wouldn't go to pot the moment he was gone? I'm trying to wrap my brain around this, because I'd love to be able to have vignettes or flashbacks or anecdotes far back in the past during campaigns, and I'd like to have some idea of how to portray major actors and their decisions, but Constantine is just baffling me with how little effort he seems to have invested in securing his legacy.
  14. Ravian

    APP

    Honestly this is probably the best idea I've heard so far as a way to make Appearance useful. Totally stealing this.
  15. jajagappa

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    Except when you know it will be! Those cults in GoG aren't coming out of thin air. Oh, he would be. But pity the poor Trickster who does so and finds that CA is no longer protecting him from Mallia... And Mallia just loves seeking out Disorder...
  16. Ravian

    Experiment- Endurance Points

    I wouldn't likely use this in base pendragon, as you're right knights in shining armor are a big consideration. I've been pondering some various alternate settings where lighter armor might not be such a crazy idea. (Right now I'm looking at Game of Thrones for instance, where heavy armor is still generally going to win out, but there are lighter armored foes that can present at least some difficulty to even a knight, even if they still will likely win out eventually. (Water Dancers and the like)). Mainly I'm thinking this as more of a consolation prize for lighter fighters to keep heavy fighters a little cautious that they won't just mow through them like grass. They'll still probably win, since armor will trump Endurance in most cases, but the foes will still probably be able to survive an extra hit or two, during which they might get that lucky crit in.
  17. Bill the barbarian

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    You know, if I had a trickster able to get it out of CA teacher (good enough story, correct rolls, yada yada), I would have to think the trickster was doing his job.Oh and thanx for the citations!
  18. Crel

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    Munchkin Answer: Referring to a forty year old supplement is not relevant to the modern game! Rules as written, Tricksters can insist the party takes a nap. Plus, as @gochie says, shamans are a thing if you really wanna get your hands on the spell. Just takes a good bit more work. Munchkin answers do not necessarily reflect the poster's actual opinions.
  19. jajagappa

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    Except if you go back to Cults of Prax, with a full writeup of CA, you'll find on p.69 "No non-cult person can be taught this spell. Befuddle was once a special cult battle magic spell as well, but unwise teaching of it beyond the cult led to its use in attacks, perverting its merciful origin. That cult mistake will not be repeated." I believe this will be reaffirmed in the new Gods book.
  20. I'll fight anyone for it. I may or may not have season-long Sword Trance precast.
  21. gochie

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    Then again, couldn't any Shaman go find a CA healing spirit and steal the spell from it? And then he could teach it to whoever he wants. Or you could torture a CA priestess and force her to teach you the spell (if you were so inclined).
  22. Crel

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    P.73 "Cult Spirit Magic: If your cult teaches spirit magic, choose 5 points of cult spirit magic. The spirit magic spells taught by the cult are listed. An initiate can start with spirit magic spells taught by an associated cult." On p.75, Chalana Arroy, Issaries, Lhankor Mhy and Orlanth are listed as Eurmal's Associated Cults. On p.74, Sleep is listed as a 3-pt cult spirit magic spell. Therefore, RAW, Eurmali Tricksters can begin play knowing Sleep as 3 of their 5 points of cult spirit magic. Additionally, I currently see nothing in Chalana Arroy's longer writeup (on p.290) which directly contradicts this reading, although @PhilHibbs's comment is probably accurate. I guess it's worth pointing out that any of the cults noting CA as associated can get access at start of play to Sleep. Eurmal just stuck out in particular because Tricksters. And, I suppose any other cult would have some notion of "use this spell nicely, or else CA's gonna be pissed" whereas Tricksters are Tricksters. Other cults include Ernalda, Issaries, Lhankor Mhy, Orlanth, Storm Bull and Yelm.
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  24. Bill the barbarian

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    Would you be so kind as to give us a page number citation of us to scurry after. I gotta check on this but if you were already there.... Lotta pages to leaf through. cheers
  25. BalazarLightson

    Gods of Glorantha Gen Con 51 Preview Edition

    There may be a RQDU Con copy left. Chase up MOB and ask.
  26. DreadDomain

    Survey what do you most want for RQG?

    I agree the focus should be Glorantha. Fantasy Earth is all good but others have that well in hand and trying to compete on that front (Fantasy Earth) while you have a unique topic (Glorantha) to cover seems counter productive (unless of course FE does not somehow draw resources away from Glorantha). Also, one of the best element of RQG is how the Runes are baked in the setting and character creation. That would obviously play a different role (if at all) in a FE line.
  27. PhilHibbs

    Warning: Egregious munchkinnery!

    That's definitely an omission, Chalana Arroy never taught Sleep to non CA cultists.
  28. Oracle

    RQ vs D&D

    No, I don't think so (at least that's how I understand the rules). But in your example Melee would be a too generic skill (at least from my perspective), so you would have Swordmanship as a skill and Rapier as a breakout.
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