Bill the barbarian

Yes please, this document could use a drag into the 21st century.

and now for a one word response... "DAM!"

Thanks DerKrieger, eye opening! Especially the lack of experience with the spear and still they won more often than not. Plus the comment about always having a 2nd weapon with a spear. The enemy closes, or spear breaks just drop it and pull the 2nd weapon. Cheers

Totally. I wish I didn't have to ever use it in a comparison but a 6 metric tonne elephant it is. Easy targets suck. and make one lazy.

Thanks GianniVacca for pointing that out, in my usual meandering way, I meant what you said, just used a frack of a lot more words... doh! As you can see, to my mind a fantasy trope is a wee bit different than a D&D trope. Apologies for my misunderstanding, svensson. Cheers

As RHW says start with what it is. The world is myth personified. The sun is a god who died in a great conflagration and was brought back to life and thus can only exist for half of time and travels the cestestial sphere by day and enters and travels hell by night, We worship the gods of air, storm and middle sky and thus we are willful and free— these gods took life from the sun and realizing their error they set forth on the Lightbringers' Quest to retrieve him from hell and place him back in the sky. All over a flat earth that reaches down to the roots of mountains into hell an floats on all the world's waters. All is god, spirit, and rune, The conflagration known as the God's War unmade reality it was so great—all who survived created the great compromise woven into a mystical web called time by the spider. The gods and the dead would leave the mortal realms to those who hold the elemental and form runes especially the beast and man runes. Thus the creek that sustains us, our crops and animals—is a great spirit with the power of the rune of elemental water We make treaty with her once a year at a sacred time.Via communication and worship of gods we gain control of Runes and thus magics, simple and complex that alter the world a little; to fix a wheel or make an arrow fly true to great magics which will help the fertility of your crops, families ands animals. Once a year we hold great rituals that remake the Great Compromise and reset time for the next year. Our magics are both great and small but all come from the runes. As an intro this lets the players know that they are not in Kansas, and that magic interweaves all that they do.

Thanks guys and I assume gals. When I got up on my soap box I thought I was making a preemptive strike to protect a bunch of what I think are cool hobbyists maybe making a bit of pin money and a few others maybe making a living putting out a game I have loved for 2/3 of my life. Seems all of you are keeping this in mind and being nice with our "FRIENDS". They are (rarely and not much in use as a business model anymore) friends whom we have yet to meet. I have never a geek I could not at least relate to if not outright like. And I know this to still be true decades on! Cheers

I would agree with Koster there, The fact that a PC might want to so something that is not wise is on the PC not the rule. Let's get our hypothetical and hapless PC (we could cal him Ruric the Hapless) and unleash a little mayhem on him. Being an initiate of Yelmalio, Ruric the Hapless is in the Rubble underground spear out shield unlimbered when he bumps into a trollkin with a dagger.' Aha,' thinks Ruric, 'not this time!' and moves to attack. His spear misses with a roll of 67 and the little bugger (lacking sense and being more afraid of running back into his ZZ overlord than this gangly hooman in front) leaps froward and attacks. A 31, Hit. But Ruric rolls a a shield parry and well 12 pts is 12 pts and as long as Ruric parries, not even an impale will get by the shield. He is considering changing his name from hapless when...

One would use knock back rules here to get some space. Tactically, RQ3 seems to have befitted from the AH relationship. Their skill in war-gaming rules helped here.And agreed, good rule, not perfect.

ooh pick me Monte, pick me. Good luck Mac, hope you walk away happy.

That's why I did not recognize it. The short weapon wielder has the option of adding 1 SR to his/her next Melee SR by stating the intention of closing. The longer weapon wielder may also add a SR next MR by stating the intention of keeping the foe at bay and step back maintaining the relationship as it was last MR. Should the long weapon wielder not wish to step back (suicidal or?) or be unable (cliff), the short weapon wielder closes and puts the long weapon wielder in a world of hurt. As long as they are in close combat. the short weapon strikes first, and the long weapon is limited to an attack or a parry or a dodge only. The short weapon acts as normal. That is regular rules in RQ3 and I have used it and seen it used a few times. Good rule.

Oh, the amount of work I created for RQ3 in Pagemaker 5... Gak!

An old fart limps into centre of the market with a soapbox under arm. Chases away a few pigeons (much clapping of wings, a few heads turn to see the "to do").and then, with purpose, sets down the box, climbs upon it and looks about at the early morning setup of folks rushing about.. A few curious vendors stop to see what the mad old goat has to say. Clearing his throat he waits until the square settles and then... His voice booms out! "You have to feel for the boys and girls at Chaosium. "Even had everything gone perfect, this would have been a hell of a week for the old company. However Orderium, they are not. Don't matter, they are gamers creating top quality games for (hopefully, top quality) gamers, They support us by working long unpaid hours (wish they did not have to, but....). We support them by keeping them in business by buying their product and because they not Hasbro, we even put in time helping to make the games better (that is the plan, right?). "Trying to put up with our whining and moaning about how unfair the UNIVERSE is does not seem to make everything better. I don't know, I suppose we can start complaining a year before the game comes out but how crappy it will be if we are not listened to and then complain when it comes out and then complain, complain, complain... "I wish things would go perfect but wasn't BRP and its ilk great in the early years. the mid years and even today? Perfect no! Do I feel ripped off because AH and Chaosium's deal went south taking RQ4 AiG with it. Not even after paying AH prices for many (less than Chaosium quality) RQ3 products, Being an early adopter RQ G and being saddled with a first edition with errors (that has never happened before, well okay once or twice perhaps) one would think that I could complain but why, There were people willing to pull Chaosium out of the mud a few years back by pulling out check books for product they might never have seen. Why, because they like what Greg's friends had done and figured that it might happen again. "I will wait to see what is done with delays, misunderstandings, and hurt feelings.I have high hopes but realize that Chaosium is flesh and blood and will not scream to loudly should they fail. I don't think they will: problems with shipping due to complexities by trying to make everything right. No problems, carry on! Should I come out a bit behind after the dust settles, all considered I might still be happy, I am as of now... Hell, I have been hosed by bigger and better companies in far harsher ways before, and I am sure I am not being hosed now. I am not ready to call CBC's "Market Place" or a government ombudsmen (hell not even the BBB or the boy scouts). Patience, let's see what happens. "I think Chaosium is doing just fine," Climbs off soap box, brushes off the odd bit of flung vegetation from his clothing and with his box under his arm leaves, the jeers of the street urchins ringing in his ears. Cheers

I do not recall that Kloster, any chance of a page number?

Pefectly applicable indeed! From what I have read (In way too many sources to begin to cite) that's the exact way Dragon Pass and environs was populated and given a history in the first place, That is, to say it was built on the adventures of early PCs.

Yeah, when I read Skovari's comment I thought, man how could he get it so wrong? Until I read the third bullet he pointed to, ergo, tentative. I would rather let rip a "yipee ky aii motherf*****," but I can wait for a little to do that.

assuming I am reading this correctly Skovari, I get the same interpretation. (tentative yeehaw!).

and on that note, let us leave a boy and his wolf under the red moon and make our way back the way we came.

dee enn aye... what is that? (Ooh I love being a flat-earther), "Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about a science book Don't know much about the French I took"

ooh, ick.

Combine that with the old HW classic Thunder Rebels to give it colour and Bob's your bison's uncle. Cheers

Damn, I swore I would avoid this Forum... (dam, dam. dam)

Back in those days, Gygax was a little more magnanimous in sharing HIS vision with the masses (even if only in writing the right words in the DMG) and granted DMs the right to decide how to play D&D. A little later he got on a high horse and demanded that all and sundry conform to the one TRUE PATH. Alas.

After smiting them in the nose with a newspaper?

Thank you. I thought it was just me. Loved it, loved it, loved it!