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Secret of the Steppes

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I was reading the Stormbringerrpg website when I discovered that there is a book for MRQII Elric of Melniboné called Secret of the Steppes.

Would it be possible to get the book on pdf?

Would anyone be so kind as to share it?

Thanks!

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35 minutes ago, nclarke said:

Piracy is not allowed here. Do not ask for pirated material.

I apologize for bothering you.  I thought that being discontinued there would be no problem.  I am willing to pay for a second-hand pdf.

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PDF's aren't transferrable. Your only hope is to pick up a copy on an auction site or from somewhere like Noble Knight Games which specialises in second hand printed material.

 

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Looks like it was, in 2012. NobleKnight has a listing, but is "Sold Out".

SDLeary

PS: Holy S**t... the Mongoose Elric core book has a $150 asking price on the site!

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2 hours ago, el_octogono said:

I thought that supplement never got published...

It was. I have it. (But note that it was Legend, not MRQII.)

I forget if it's rare because of low print run or loss of Elric license (or both), but if you didn't get it when it came up, it's a tough one now. Probably on par with Chaosium monographs, actually.

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On 2/16/2020 at 10:09 AM, el_quinto_hombre said:

I apologize for bothering you.  I thought that being discontinued there would be no problem.  I am willing to pay for a second-hand pdf.

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The original company could/would protect the rights to their product. In addition, Mongoose no longer has the rights to Elric or any of the other Eternal Champion characters and can't sell pdfs of the old Strombringer line. If they could, they would probably have made the PDFs available long ago. That's one of the drawback to a licensed product line.

All anyone can do, legally, is sell any back stock they may or may not have, at whatever price they can get for it and feel comfortable accepting. You can probably find a copy on EBay or some online story that specializes in out of print stock, but the prices for stuff that way can get absurd.

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On 2/16/2020 at 7:09 AM, el_quinto_hombre said:

I apologize for bothering you.  I thought that being discontinued there would be no problem.  I am willing to pay for a second-hand pdf.

Unfortunately, "discontinued" (and therefore unavailable) is NOT equivalent to "freely available in e-copy".

If this is based on Michael Moorcock's work, he is still the sole owner of the (c).

As noted, NobleKnight and online stores like e-bay/amazon for used are your most likely options.

But "second hand PDF" is not a thing!

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On 2/16/2020 at 4:47 PM, nclarke said:

PDF's aren't transferrable. Your only hope is to pick up a copy on an auction site or from somewhere like Noble Knight Games which specialises in second hand printed material.

 

You can, at least under European law, sell a pdf you own legally. You would have to delete ALL copies you have.

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5 hours ago, Kloster said:

You can, at least under European law, sell a pdf you own legally. You would have to delete ALL copies you have.

This is interesting to me.  How is that "ownership" ultimately tracked?

If "C" sells a PDF they created to "B," and "B" then sells it to "A" ...  does "C" know of "A," or get informed?  (Many seller/creators, AFAIK, are pretty generous with their "re-download" policy... someone goes to the seller and says "my hard drive crashed" or "my Cloud storage got hacked/deleted" and they can re-download their content.  I don't believe this is legally mandated, just widely held to be "good policy.")   If "A" is now the legal owner, they should have the same D/L privileges with "C" (the same as "B" had)...

But C doesn't know A from Adam.

I can see a bunch of other knotty legal quandaries lurking in the shadows, too...

 

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12 hours ago, g33k said:

This is interesting to me.  How is that "ownership" ultimately tracked?

If "C" sells a PDF they created to "B," and "B" then sells it to "A" ...  does "C" know of "A," or get informed?  (Many seller/creators, AFAIK, are pretty generous with their "re-download" policy... someone goes to the seller and says "my hard drive crashed" or "my Cloud storage got hacked/deleted" and they can re-download their content.  I don't believe this is legally mandated, just widely held to be "good policy.")   If "A" is now the legal owner, they should have the same D/L privileges with "C" (the same as "B" had)...

But C doesn't know A from Adam.

I can see a bunch of other knotty legal quandaries lurking in the shadows, too...

Frankly, I don't know, and I also see some potential troubles.

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It must be incredibly rare.  I've been looking daily on Ebay for a copy for about 2 years and have never seen a copy for sale. 

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