Dethstrok9 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Hello, as y'all know, I am a newcomer to RQG and after reading through the core rulebook I had some questions. This one is rather strange, and forgive me if it has been asked before, but why on earth is large size equivalent to the Darkness rune affinity? If Darkness is connected to the sneak skills and shadow realm of immateriality, why then would SIZ be the choice? I've been thinking about it, and mainly the explanation I have is 1. many chaos or "darkness" creatures (like Trolls) have high SIZ and 2. Gluttony, lust, and violence (general evil) is associated with darkness. Although that second one seems a long shot since the Darkness rune is not specifically evil as far as I can tell... I'm lost good and proper now, and any clarification would be appreciated:) Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 One property of Darkness is physical presence (in the face of infinite potential of space, time, and matter of the Void) as the first of the elements (according to the God Learner sequence). That translates into the characteristic of SIZ. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethstrok9 Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joerg said: One property of Darkness is physical presence But it is also stealth and general sneakyness? Which would likely equate to the opposite, no? Obviously this is a minor nitpick, but it still seems to defeat it's purpose and contradict itself. Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Dethstrok9 said: But it is also stealth and general sneakyness? Which would likely equate to the opposite, no? Obviously this is a minor nitpick, but it still seems to defeat it's purpose and contradict itself. Obstruction of Sight (the dominant sense for most non-trolls) helps with stealth, as does the property of Darkness to be less firm in shape (at least when surrounded by its own element). Trollpak says that trolls have a hard time remaining silent. But remaining unseen is what they excel at if there is any shadow to be had. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The elements didn't get to choose their characteristics as powergaming moves to improve skill chances in a particular area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Darkness is vast... limitless. Hence, SIZ. Darkness holds many secrets. Hence, stealth-skills. The fact that these don't line up is... kinda irrelevant. Glorantha is driven by myth, not by mechanical rules-synergies. 5 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethstrok9 Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 hours ago, g33k said: Glorantha is driven by myth, not by mechanical rules-synergies. Thank you, that makes perfect sense. Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Trolls are big, so Darkness is big, hence SIZ. It makes as much sense as anything else. With the Runic associations, you have 5 elements, or 6 with Moon, and 7 Characteristics, so mapping them is always going to be an issue. I have gleefully accepted "Because it is" as a valid Gloranthan reason for years and am happier as a result. 4 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, soltakss said: ... I have gleefully accepted "Because it is" as a valid Gloranthan reason for years and am happier as a result. says the Yelmalian Storm Spear. 😁 Edited June 8, 2020 by g33k 1 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethstrok9 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 9 hours ago, soltakss said: I have gleefully accepted "Because it is" as a valid Gloranthan reason for years and am happier as a result. Been talking to some in my Channel discord server and yeah. This is becoming evident as the prevalent explanation... Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Dethstrok9 said: Been talking to some in my Channel discord server and yeah. This is becoming evident as the prevalent explanation... There really is a tremendous amount of myth behind it all. The deep-lore folk and anthropo-wankers can get into the details, but it's much MUCH less "random" and "just because" than it looks like at first glance. That said... there's a perennial <wink-wink, nudge-nudge> game that gets played amongst the grognards: "explain why zero-physics / pure-myth-and-Rune flat(ish) lozenge Glorantha acts so damned much like pure-physics sphere of RW-Earth" It can get profoundly creative. It can get profoundly absurd. It can get deeply satisfyingly mythological. It USUALLY does all of these... 😉 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 11 hours ago, g33k said: says the Yelmalian Storm Spear. Illumination has its benefits 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Darkness involves hunger in Glorantha. If you eat a lot, you get big. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordabdul Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Of course, one could completely change all the Runic associations randomly, and still come up with seemingly profoundly mythical reasons that they make sense And now that I wrote that, I'm wondering if we could make that into a little game next time we interview someone on Wind Words.... mmmmh 3 1 Quote Ludovic aka Lordabdul -- read and listen to The God Learners , the Gloranthan podcast, newsletter, & blog ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethstrok9 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 10 hours ago, lordabdul said: And now that I wrote that, I'm wondering if we could make that into a little game next time we interview someone on Wind Words.... mmmmh That would be really cool... Quote -Voice of the Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 "What one Runic personality-trait (or other Mythic feature) would you assign to a different Rune... and to which Rune... and WHY?" 😇 1 Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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