DrGoth Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Other people have probably already worked this out, but I've only just realised how soon after the Dragonrise the Battle of Dangerford is. The Dragonrise was Clayday, Harmony week, Earth Season, 1625 (or day 122) (sourcebook, p.39). If I'm reading the maps in the Soloquest in the Starter Set correctly, the Battle of Dangerford was Freezeday, Movement week, Earth Season, 1625 (or day 148) That's less than four weeks between the two events. Twenty-six days. I'm assuming that she must have made preparations for raising the army before the Dragonrise. That only makes sense, really, but I'd never looked at the timeline properly before. Interesting how she kept that quiet from the Lunars. Yes, they were distracted by buiulding the temple, but even so, it must have taken some work to stop them noticing. Do we have any other firm dates for the rest of her reign? I know The Battle of the Queens was 1626, but I'm not sure when in 1626. The sourcebook has "Late fire season" (p.41) but that's it, no exact date. That still puts it just less than a year after the Dragonrise. Between the boat quest, the dragonrise, two battles and the failed LBQ she could hardly have had a chance to draw breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 The newest wellpost has a few more details on it: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/notes-on-boldhome-under-the-lunar-occupation-1602-1625/ Doesn't look like there was much widespread preparation, just a lot of pent up pressure that Kallyr let loose and managed to somewhat point towards the Lunars. But yeah, I don't think she exactly followed the "one adventure per season" model 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Brooke Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, DrGoth said: I know The Battle of the Queens was 1626, but I'm not sure when in 1626. The sourcebook has "Late fire season" (p.41) but that's it, no exact date. That still puts it just less than a year after the Dragonrise. Drew has it on Godsday of Movement week in Fire season in his non-canonical scenario about the Battle of Queens (chapter 3 of The Seven Tailed Wolf), so I’d use that until something better comes along. Edited May 27, 2023 by Nick Brooke 1 Quote Community Ambassador - Jonstown Compendium, Chaosium, Inc. Email: nick.brooke@chaosium.com for community content queries Jonstown Compendium ⧖ Facebook Ф Twitter † old website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manunancy Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Form teh other side of the fence, it would also be logical for the lunars to wait for the temple's consecration before going full repressive : the troops will be free and their magic boosted, while if they went traipsing all over the contryside cracking heads, they may get tangled up and mess with the schedule. It means that mobilisation preparations can get started without immediate repercussions even if it gets noticed 'ah those bumbling startarites have screwed up, they'll be ready to rebel only after we get our temple ready'. The magical side, well, they were probably quite confident they could resist whatever Kallyr and her merry band may do to disrupt the consecration - they expeted her to have to do all the heavy lifting rather than merely rousing a dragon and letting him do the job. Edited May 29, 2023 by Manunancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 2:34 PM, Richard S. said: I don't think she exactly followed the "one adventure per season" model 😃 And that is one of many reasons why she failed. Had she stuck to the one adventure per season model she would have renewed her RP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Desperate WindChild Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 6:15 AM, DrGoth said: That's less than four weeks between the two events. Twenty-six days. I'm assuming that she must have made preparations for raising the army before the Dragonrise. That only makes sense, really, but I'd never looked at the timeline properly before. there are other options 1) she was not involved in the dragonrise 2) she allowed some of her partisans to manage it but she didn't care (or was not focused on, "yes yes do what you want, that is not my priority" ) 3) she did care but she had few to do, cause it is a specialist business 4) Was it a prepared army as modern standard (greek, roman, barracks, plans, etc ...) or just a barbarian call for a battle ? I know nothing about war business, but it seems to me, in any time, even maybe now (no offense for any one), that when everyone is seen as a warrior (in their own culture), it is "easier", at least faster, to lead a battle in your own territory to defend your land/people/values. They know where are their weapons (at home), they know where to gather, they know who lead (at least at clan/tribe level). That doesn't mean victory, but at least you have fighters in a short time. In the white bull campaign (youtube), if I recall well, the heroes (pc) warned her that a lunar army was coming soon, so it seems that was not really a planned battle. But I may confuse two battles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 One thing which strikes me, the dragonrise seems oddly reminiscent of the dragon kill war, where a concentration of magic and people in one place with draconic connections aroused a feeding frenzy. Perhaps the reason critics of the Dragonrise got so upset is it could have been much worse. Maybe it was just luck that the magical event was restricted to one dragon and one group of magically charged Lunars. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 15 hours ago, EricW said: One thing which strikes me, the dragonrise seems oddly reminiscent of the dragon kill war, where a concentration of magic and people in one place with draconic connections aroused a feeding frenzy. Not quite fair. What triggered the Dragonkill was the threat to destroy all the dragonewt eggs in the Pass. A veritable genocide (on the resident Orlanthi as well). 1 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbrandi Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Joerg said: What triggered the Dragonkill was the threat to destroy all the dragonewt eggs in the Pass. While this may be right — canonical even, despite your bill matter — @EricW’s suggestion that the causes of dragon behaviour might not be what “everybody knows” them to be sounds like it could be more fun. Dragons rising to the defence of their kin? That sounds like an explanation a human would come up with. Dull, duller, dullest. Perhaps in the Dragonkill, the dragons detected traces of a massive assisted utuma drifting toward them from the future and “mistook” the objects of that utuma when they helped the little people out with their plan. (I say “mistook”, but the auguries proved self-fulfilling, so nothing to see here … no mistake … move along.) Or something. I am sure Eric has a better take on it — one which should shortly be apotheosized into a glorious Dumb Theory. (As we know, only mine are truly dumb.) Dragons need a bit of their awe and mystery restored. Whole pantheons should quake before a dragon. A dragon shouldn’t have its head summarily removed by a petty wind thing. Wannabe heroes shouldn’t command packs of dragons as if they were attack dogs. Harrumph! 2 Quote NOTORIOUS VØID CULTIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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