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  1. Minlister is nandani gendered, along with some of their cultists, given how brewing has typically been seen as feminine work.
  2. That's how Brithini Talars in Arolanit defend themselves (Guide to Glorantha page 408), well, at least the more liberal ones. The Rokari seem even more liberal, with kings and princes having swords (ibid, page 412 mentions them) and while the weapons of the "heavily-armed cataphracts" raised from the Talars (ibid, page 407) aren't explicitly described, lances don't seem out of the realm of probability.
  3. Well, it's been a year, and now there's a second collection of clan questionnaires been produced by us, and available at the Jonstown Compendium. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/363702/Alakorings-Legacy This one covers the Orlanthi of Tarsh and Aggar in greater detail, as well as the Tusk Riders.
  4. Well, I've seen it elsewhere, but it only makes things more confusing. That same chestplate is worn by the Golden Men, in the rituals of Nyalda Marriage Maker and Elmal Path Guardian. Golden Men can also be found in the lands of the Forosilvuli, and gift you because solar people need to stick together. In the ritual of Nyalda Marriage Maker, you can gift them gold, and they'll use it to make more Golden Men. It's possible they're actually Gold Wheel Dancers, who lived in the mountains south of the Forosilvuli, and had a connection to golden coins (with some saying that the Wheel coins were originally their remains I believe?) and one was brought back through worship of gold. This doesn't necessarily help us locate Relandar, but due to a connection in iconography there could be a connection to Lokarnos. Like the Gold Wheel Dancers, he is associated with gold and wheels. But he is also the Counting God (Glorantha Sourcebook page 103), and was once known as the Timekeeper (Guide page 647) for helping people tell the time in the Grey Age. It could be possible that Relandar may have had some connection to Lokarnos that has been lost, when his transportation and trade aspects became more valuable than his records and social engineering.
  5. Same, and there's no reason not to use it. Just have to figure out a way that works for your campaign. Let's start with Oshjalaba. They're unlikely to be the Stream itself, as the Stream is usually depicted as Engizi's brother. What could be fun is some maps (Such as Sartar: Kingdom of Heroes 283, or the Land of Thunder map) show a tributary of Kjartan's Lake which acts as a border between the Balmyr and the Quivini mountains. This doesn't exist on other maps, so you could have it be Oshjalaba's Stream, forgotten due to the general powers of forgetfulness in the area. Oshjalaba's a neriad, daughter of the Stream and yet friendly with sorcerers due to kinship with Malkion. She acts as the Chapter's wyter, through a deal with the leader of the sorcerers. The White Chapel of Purity's write up mentions it was originally founded in the Dawn Age by a group of Malvonian adepts. Malvonians are described here, and are sorcerers who have the power to repel Erasanchula and the like, giving examples of their spells. Given the healing focus of the band, it's likely that their particular spells dealt with *disease* spirits, with spells like Remain Untouched by Disease and Dispel Disease Spirit. This also gives them a useful role, because of different way their magic work, they're effectively an unexpected threat for disease. Their strict rules include avoiding blood (which results in their pacifism), vegetarianism, and celibacy, trying to maintain purity through this. It also means that those who do stumble across them may mistake them for Chalana Arroyists at first.
  6. I imagine there may have been a bit of an interesting conversation when someone realised they'd betrayed the guy who killed the previous Mask.
  7. If you do still want to use Atrox and his school, a better place for him than Black Horse County would be Seshnela itself. Given his book was a strict text, which was later superseded by the Abiding Book, but probably has a lot more in common with the Sharp version. It's association with the order of black iron echoes the school of Iron Blood in Segurane, and while the guide notes other Malkioni schools are subject to varying degrees of repression, a fellow school of wizard ascetics would fit in nicely. What we have as his details even works nicely: An early follower of Malkion, who saw his betrayal and death by rebellious gods, and wrote down what he saw. While his followers agree with the Rokari that one needs to obey your caste laws to achieve Solace, the Atroxics further hold that mortification of spirit and flesh is needed. They probably don't get on well with nobility, but you might find a sorcerer who follows those harsh laws trying to instruct some peasants somewhere. You could even connect it to the World of Losers movement found in Ralios, with Atrox being the first Hideous Saint.
  8. So it's more likely for there to be an Ascended Master of Economics and Governance, who wrote a great grimoire similar to the Arthashastra?
  9. The question of "what is a god" is probably worthy of it's own thread, but the most reasonable one I can figure out in terms of Gloranthan monotheism and atheism is "a being who is worthy of worship." Malkioni get to be monotheists because although they recognise the various supernatural entities that embody natural forces are powerful, they do not think them worthy of worship, and only the Invisible God is worthy of that. Even if they've adopted "god" as a loanword or whatever, to them those beings are just doing their jobs, so why should they be worshipped for it? The Brithini are atheists because they take this further, and view the Invisible God and say "Yes, it created the universe, but that is its nature, it is an impartial force, and we may respect the Prime Mover, but it is not worthy of worship." References:
  10. I get the feeling that the Rokari vision of Seshnegi society is still a "work in progress." They're still having problems of what to do with the lower and middle classes (Guide to Glorantha page 413), who they've been unable to exactly turn into proper castes (the wealthier townsfolk of the trader and crafter subcastes mentioned on page 51 are probably an example of the middle class, and likely look down on lower class workers combined into the Worker Caste) It wouldn't surprise me if the Rokari Watcher's response would be "yes it's bad, but at the moment we're still rooting out major heresies and convincing showing everyone we've got the Right version of Malkionism. Just look the other way until we've got everything else sorted out, and then we'll get to work on restoring the Talars to their proper place and ending their corruptive ancestor worship." (But in private of course)
  11. On the other hand, out of 100%, that would put the ILH into a special success range. 😉
  12. The family tree in the Glorantha Sourcebook (page 107) has them both as the children of Orlanth and Ernalda together, which supports you. I think it would make a great deal of sense for them to be twins.
  13. It's the problem of one term doing double duty (or triple, etc.) The three "noble" occupations of RQG (Noble, Priest, and Scribe) appear to actually be part of the "Free Wealthy" social class. Harmast is in an interesting position as his father is a true noble, while Harmast isn't even a part of the "petty nobility" that the Free Wealthy represent, but just a regular farmer.
  14. You might hear something like "My nephew has no talent for field work, but has a steady hand and keen eye. I ask that you teach him as a scribe, so that he can prove his worth. It is my hope that when he is a man, he will prove himself able to use the Knowing God's wisdom and the magic of books." Sorcery is probably a term the Orlanthi would view with suspicion, as it suggests magic without the gods. While Lhankor Mhy's magic is just his blessings, showing people how to use the old magic of the world, and his scribes and sages are sure to remember the gods in what they do. Learning a spirit spell might involve going to your local temple and asking "I wish to make my sword as sharp as Orlanth's, I will give the temple five good cows for the priests." And after making the arrangements for the transfer of cattle to the temple's herds, the priests take you into the sanctuary, conjure up one of Orlanth's spirit winds and create a link with you using a focus. You learn the Bladesharp spell, and now have the focus for casting it.
  15. Ah, I think I've seen the measuring device for that!
  16. Arandayla, the horse goddess worshipped by the Grazelanders; and Hippoi, the horse goddess of Pent, are probably the same.
  17. Tindalos

    Belintar

    Which is interesting as the representative of God Forgot in the guide is clearly wearing a similar torc, and is in their traditional costume. I agree he's certainly not in Zzaburi clothing, even if his skin would be right, but if the turban, the jewel in the forehead, the earrings, and it looks like the himation as well are traditional God Forgot clothing, then they're probably what the Talar wears -- suitable for the God-King.
  18. Tindalos

    Belintar

    The depiction in the guide (page 238) and in Prince of Sartar (pages 44-45, referred to as his original body) has the appearance of someone from God Forgot, and dressed in their clothing. In the comic, he's even blue, suggesting he may be a Zzaburi!
  19. Given the mention in the guide that nobles engage in "a brutal blend of boxing and wrestling." (page 52) It's probably similar to pankration or mixed martial arts. I could also still see the warrior societies, "halfwitted hsunchen" and all, having martial arts based on their Martial Beast. Lion warriors focusing on fierce punches like the blows of a lion's paw; Snake warriors relying on either swift strikes or grappling holds. Of course in war, that's the time for weapons and armour, but in peace they still have to keep up their training.
  20. I mean, all things aside, so's the Red Moon? It's more of a subject for another thread, but it comes down to the changing nature of canon, depending on the books you use, and the era they're from, you'll get very different answers.
  21. On a similar line to Blood of Zeus, there's the recent animated series Onyx Equinox. Shown on an anime streaming service of all things, it's set in Mesoamerica, with characters from different cultures (Mexica, Mayan, Zapotec, Totonac) The combination of the supernatural being an acknowledged part of the world, deities as an important part of the story, and who need sacrifice, the quest to save humanity from destruction, and just the look into many different cultures with their art and design, makes this a potential source of Gloranthan inspiration.
  22. The more than a millennium of development. Even the cult of Yelm has changed massively, as detailed in the Fortunate Succession. Current Dara Happan thought holds that Yelm became more remote than he was in Khordavu's day as well. (GtG 725) So it's understandable how the culture would have changed alongside the cult.
  23. Ah, so the Dara Happans now view things as having Yelm be silent from Gerruskoger's reign to Khordavu's reign, and not that he only returned then? And the Kargzant Gerruskoger elevates actually Yu-Kargzant without him knowing? That makes sense. Works for me. I don't know, when your tribe has a strong connection to Humakt, wouldn't "killer" be a positive nickname?
  24. But not the sun, as noted in the link, as the Dara Happans proved that (despite not recognising it for 220 years). Lightfore may have been the light in the darkness, but it's a planet.
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