Bill the barbarian

Nah don't leave remain and lets set this bad boy back on its wheels Anyone care to guess what the sensory components to bladesharp would be, I imagine it will change according to the god the spirit spell came from. An orlanthi bladesharp would sound a little wind like as its owner slices with it. Light glinting off it might look a little like a flash of ighting So what would a shamanistic one sound and look like like,

oops my bad. no actually that was how it came over from cut and paste and I was too lazy to do anything about it

Okay, I am getting extremely tired of coming to Do spells have a visual component (when they don't obviously have one)? only to find we are not talking about spells, we are talking about Blah, Blah Blah, charisma, Blah, Blah Blah charisma. Could we possibly let this thread go back to its original poster and his original topic "Spells" and perhaps create a new thread about "charisma"... so those of us who never want to read another word on this topic as long as they game can avoid the thread For the sake of all the gods. please!

One of my fave experiences was in GreenBrass (actually in the mountains beyond Green Brass, I will have to tell ya about it some day.

Wow, thanks that sounds great.

Hmm. so do you think we took too long? Chargen for us back in the day was a session. used to do a little initiation into adulthood and a modified character background using campaigns past from the RQ companion. The party interacted with the town before leaving on the quest and the quest itself was a day pr so. Never did rush the party. Two or three sessions usually.

Agreed learn the rules, before breaking them. cheers

Captain, logically I have to inform you that a slight drift has been detected ahead. Look you pointy eared freak, if I was worried about a slight drift why I never would have boldly gone... <edited for pointlessness> So how long did it take you to finish GreenBrass? Enquiring minds and all. For both actually, how long did you crazy kids play in the sandbox?

Yeah that about says where I would like to be in the final analysis, and I like how you adapt the theory of evolution from our blue marble to magic on the green lozenge to weed out those spells that are no longer applicable to the worlds needs and remembering the meta in order to also suit the tastes of your game, and desires of the players. Quite logical appreciation of internal consistency. I will add, of course, the internal consistency in Glorantha is not always immediately apparent. As with anything created with a touch of depth some will be revealed onion skin style—a bit at a time and until revealed will seem paradoxical. Worth noting as well, as per reality, sometimes the logic will never reveal itself and stuff seems out of sync, a little wrong or just plain odd. Our world has this, Glorantha, broken and off-kilter Glorantha (assume a real existing Glorantha for just a second) has it for sure and Meta Glorantha, that which has been created by humans over decades; ones that make mistakes or change their mind or simply forget some of the 100s of billions of words devoted to Glorantha, will have it in spades. So internal consistency first, the players like it and then a little shuffle to left to surprise then as well. They will also like this. As a bonus, this is consistent with how great tales resolve, and coincidentally sounds exactly like an old and predominate theory on writing pop songs. The mix of the familiar with the unexpected in the right ratio, and what that ratio is, is what separates the wheat from the chaff and will sell your song. I like the current management views that the differences in interpretations is where the creativity and originality can creep in. This has been mentioned by various members of the Chaosium Brass as being a feature and not a bug, (and it sounds a hell of a lot more sincere then similar statements from MicroSoft et al) at one time or another—not to universal accliam, unfortunately—so I hope this philosophy still steers the ship. "There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in." ― Leonard Cohen

IRL I can't say I have finished many adventures in a day, the fastest ones I have run have been The Village of Greenbrass from the RQ 3 GM's book. which took 2 or 3 gaming days of 4-7 hours (its been years) and The Broken Tower is supposed to be playable for new comers to RQ in 5 hours but my game at the FLGS on free gaming day back in '17 got to the final combat in 5 and a bit hours As the combat could have taken up to an hour (newcomer and all those spells, one player looked at me helplessly not sure what to do with all that power (thirty or so spells was it, can't recall glad they did away with that rule, quickly) necessitating a less then clean finish and a ruling on how the battle might have gone based on the set up. People had to leave so... in real life intervened. In my games I love a story, and thread drift does not bother me (who knew) so the thought of lengthening a game rather than shortening them is usually my goal or at least a result I usually get. For example Melisande’s Hand was run by one of my players giving me a chance to play and I think we milked that one for about 4 or 5 weeks of real time playing once a week. The game was so engrossing I recall 8 hours being our shortest day. So a minimum of 32 or 40 hours of Pavis County goodness and a fine way to introduce the adventures to Duke Raus (not to mention get one of the adventurers in trouble with... (never you mind!); thank you MOB! Cheers

Yes indeed, Scoobie Snacks ™!

I have always understood Eurmal in the great global trickster/court jester, the infant who avers that the emperor does not lack clothes. He is butt nekkid! But (d'ja see how I did that, d'ja?) in the past couple of months in these myriad forums I am beginning to think I have a handle on them. Not enough to allow them as player adventurers but I think twixt here and the KoDP game i might know enough to begin to allow them (reluctantly, watchfully, and lets's face it, probably through outright deceitfulness and liberal applications of Lie spells on the Eurmali part) into clan circles one day (nervous grin, followed by an unusual tick) Cheers

Heler makes a lot more sense, I can see fogs and mists being part of his purview as well. Hmm, an inspired spell and an inspired choice of cults. Yer son sounds like the kind of gamer I like, Cheers PS Hmm, a Heler, Eurmali cross... scary!

That is so cool in that great Glorantha way! Do you think that this would be a spell justifiably in the Eurmali "book/lexicon"? It seems like it would be, but I am not an expert and you know how finicky myth can be on the lozenge? Cheers

In my Glorantha Trolls are evil and usually ask, "Youse got a problem with that bub"? They do come from hell after all, not a sunny place filled with unicorns... uhh, wait a minute..?

Yeah had to be, My ears do not lie to me!

Holy cow! anybody else hearing a wee bit of frank zappa's influence?

BURN 'EM!

Can't argue with that, come up with the perfect odd/gross/funny or over-the-top Chuck Jones cartoon style chaos feature and have at them. They'll be back for more. You know, in my 11 years of gaming and GMing, I have only used broo once and do not recall having encountered them Seems a shame, but there is so much out there that I did not realize that until now. As long as there are healers near at hand, or shamans, ordinary or weaker broo should not be a problem for newcomers to RQ and are or can be as oddly Gloranthan as anything I can think of for starting characters. Don't do random (the possibilities are too gruesome, literally, to contemplate) but tailor the broo to your player's taste in gaming. Assuming a greater challenge is needed for your players scaling up is easy Assuming the broo have not changed since RQ 2 and 3 the feral broo was a lone figure or a small group (perhaps litter mates) that had little magic if any and poor access to weapons and armour. But they could be so much more. Let them be in a cult (spells). Let them have real armour or weapons . Have then fight with tactics and sagacity. Make them god talkers... ohh, increase their diseases or make them horrific. Give them allies or hell even a 2nd age kingdom near the Rockwoods for sh## and giggles. Anyone care to go out for a broo?

and I have just the name.... SCOOBY DOO!

sounds like an adventure to me....

Okay new territory, alas it is a thread drift but still bendable to topic. If this (using magic which is visible) is a moral issue, how can that bad? RQ does not have alignments that you choose and slavishly follow. Should you run into a moral ambiguity, well, GREAT. this is meat and potatoes to the hero, How does he respond, in kind with another moral ambiguity, righteously and to others confusion/apathy/respect. Hell choose your own morality play here. The story can almost write itself. And need I point out what a great plot angle moral ambiguity provides once again. cheers

He's on to us Elsie, Don't worry Ferdinand, I will cast a lie spell after you have cast charisma. No one will believe him over us. Quick back on all fours a human is coming.

Most important to a cult that revers truth. and a little note here. As a very long term player and owner and student of much once canonical material I can think of a few ways a priest of the god of truth could lie! Most important of which is, that the gods are not omnipotent!

and sounds like a great plot device too.