Rick Meints

The internal pages are Black and White.

The ship (OOCL Montreal) has already docked in the UK and moved on. We are waiting for the books to clear customs, and get delivered to the warehouse in Devon. It's an "Any day now" situation.

No earlier than 2020.

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No set of forums can remain a tranquil sea of politeness and serenity all the time. Angry, negative, or nasty posts will occasionally flare up, and are impossible to totally prevent. How we choose to react to them is absolutely within our control though. I focus on my responses, and try to make sure they are helpful, kind, and constructive. I am a moderator on these forums, and I hope I seldom have to do anything related to moderating posts. Having participated in many other forums over the years I feel BRP Central is far better than most in terms of its civility and welcoming nature.

The game is finished and ready for printing.

Greg offered each of the playtesters of White Bear & Red Moon the chance to immortalize themselves by having a place on the game map named after them. That is why there are places with the names of Biggle Stone, Pimper's Block, and Swenstown. Duck Point was named by Greg's co-publisher of Wyrd magazine, Brian Crist. Brian was a huge fan of Carl Barks. He wanted Duckburg, from the comics, but since the Air Pirates had just been successfully sued by Disney Greg was worried about the same thing happening, and changed it to Duck Point for copyright reasons, which was OK with Brian.

Greg Stafford said his original inspiration for ducks was Uncle Scrooge drawn by Carl Barks, with a bit of Howard the Duck thrown in. Neither Daffy nor Donald were the core inspiration.

Putting on my moderator hat: Let's get back to talking about the cover art and take the rest of the chat to somewhere else.

I could bring some, if any are unsold after Gen Con. The thing is, all the joy in packing an extra bag with 20 kilos of books in it lost all of its appeal long ago. That may sound uncaring, but I lugged books around like that for almost 20 years worth of conventions overseas.

We are going to be selling THREE preview books at Gen Con 2019 at Chaosium's booth 829: 1. The Red Book of Magic 2. Gods of Glorantha Volume I 3. Gods of Glorantha Volume II The Cults books will be sold as a two book set. No slipcase. 🙂

The multi-volume Gods of Glorantha will be published in the same manner/format as the full color hardcover RQG core rulebook and the RQ Bestiary were published. This preview edition is just the text of the Gods of Glorantha books.

The RQG format isn't that different from RQ2, so I'm not sure how to answer your question, other than with providing you with a sample or two.

Please don't ask us when a book will be printed and for sale. We don't have all the art yet, nor has it gone to layout. It is in final editing and proofing. We would love to give estimates, but people get upset, disappointed, or sometimes even angry at us if we are late on an estimated date.

Until I see the print estimate for the set I cannot guarantee that $80 price. I can guarantee it will be in the $80-$100 range though.

Which is one of the reasons I am not of a mind to do another Kickstarter.

I'm not of a mind to do another Kickstarter related to these books.

The general rule is that you get a free PDF with a printed book purchased on chaosium.com. That isn't just an RQ thing. We do that for Call of Cthulhu as well. For most books if you first purchase the PDF on our website you will get a discount on the printed version if you purchase it from our website. As for these RQ Classic titles, it mostly depends on how we offer these printed books for sale. If we go POD and use an external site like Lulu or DTRPG then we probably can't do the discount. That's how it currently works for some of the books in the Stafford Library series. You can buy PDFs of them on our website, but to get the printed book you have to buy it on Lulu.com. If we end up selling the printed books directly on our website then we probably will have a "purchased the PDF" discount. NOTE: one of the real problems with Lulu and DTRPG in this situation is that they do NOT share customer data with us. We get no info on who purchases anything on those sites. Thus, I can't guarantee the discount at this time. Ideally, we would love to just sell these books directly on our website but that means investing a fair bit of cash on regular print runs of books that may not sell in the volume required to justify doing that. We don't want to print 1000, get them to all three warehouses, and then only end up selling 200. That's why this is tricky to figure out.

The poster maps are included with the PDFs. Thus you will get a PDF of the book, and a PDF of the poster map. Player Handouts are also part of the book PDF, so it's only a matter of printing out the desired pages. Box sides are not available. The front of the box is the cover of the book, and likewise for the box bottom and the back cover of the book.

The Gateway Bestiary PDF is also for sale now too. It wasn't part of the Kickstarter, but people were interested in getting an electronic copy of it.

Anything 128 pages and up for a stand alone book will be hardcover.

I am reminded of when I bought the first edition of Deities and Demigods when it came out around 1981. My gaming group read through it and saw it as sort of a challenge as to how many of those deities could we try and kill. We managed to kill a few of them in minimax fashion, and with great enjoyment. Like a few others have said, I too feel that permanently destroying Delecti is POSSIBLE. I also feel it would be incredibly tough to do. Perhaps I am tainted by my playing of the game Dragon Pass (White Bear & Red Moon). Delecti is an option to ally with. His destruction is not anyone's victory goal. Often he is just ignored. Sure, he has neighbors that would prefer he be gone, especially the Orlanthi who live on the edges of the marsh. Thus far they have usually sought his containment, not destruction. They seem to not want to poke the (usually) sleeping bear. If a group of players wants to "take him on", please have fun. I think it would make a great campaign, and ultimately it could go either way in terms of who would ultimately win. One final irony that comes to mind is that if Delecti was getting severely challenged by one group, like the Orlanthi, Delecti would probably have no qualms at all about making an alliance with the Lunars, or the Beastmen, or somebody else who could help him survive and beat his foe. I certainly can't see the Lunars, the Dragonewts, the Beastmen, the Orlanthi, the ducks, and a few other groups all "teaming up to fight Ming" for their mutual benefit...

Tales 19.

We did leatherette versions of the Masks of Nyarlathotep books too. Expect to see such leatherette book options more often.

Here's another snippet on Blackthorn trees: A legend tells of a troll, seeking revenge for Delecti turning his companions into zombies, performing an amazing feat some 150 years ago. The troll completed a tree chopping heroquest before entering the marsh and managed to hack through two consecutive Blackthorn trees before finally falling victim to the marsh’s defenders. The peninsula extending into the marsh is now known as Darkwalk. Legend also tells of his ghost still protecting it from Delecti’s rituals. Every few years during Storm Season, a band of Zorak Zorani have been seen performing some type of ritual near the entrance onto the Darkwalk peninsula.