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Thank you. Many of the poorer Orlanthi clans cannot afford or field a fully equipped fyrd, so this comes under necessity, instead of a cultural imperative. There are very few skirmisher cultures outside the mainstream. Imther is relatively wealthy because of its relationship with the dwarves of the Imther Mountains, so I have assumed the local Sun Dome can field a regiment decked out in a full bronze panoply, which many elsewhere cannot.

Interesting. I assume these would be of the Laramite or Wilktar tribes, or perhaps a smaller group?

The Introduction to the Elder Race chapters says, discussing THE LESSER ELDER RACES: Several of the most important of the lesser Elder Races are described here: beast men, broos, ducks, jelmre, newtlings, ogres, scorpion men, and Wind Children. The more obscure races are not, for reasons of space.

Many of those are mentioned elsewhere in the Guide. So I imagine in the interests of not duplicating material they weren't included in this chapter. There are text boxes on Slarges, Luatha, and Timinit, and a subchapter under Oceans on the Waertagi. Some others are mentioned in the Prax overview: Baboons, Morokanth; Tusk Riders are mentioned in the Troll overview; Voralans are mentioned in the Elf overview; Ludoch are mentioned in the Merfolk overview. So the only ones 'missing' are Giants and Grotarons, and there's quite a bit about the former scattered about.

I hadn't considered them, given the proximity to Alkoth. My list of Pelorian skirmishers (people who don't fight in a line-of-battle): Name Region Culture Balazarings Balazar Hunter-gatherers Brolians Brolia Pastoralist and subsistence farmer Orlanthi Eolians Thrice Blessed Nomadic hunters, fishers, and reindeer herders Jajalarings Holay Dog People hunter-gatherers Odaylings Sylila Orlanthi hunters Skanthi Talastar Orlanthi Telmori Aggar, Brolia Hsunchen Tunoralings Vanch Pastoralist and subsistence farmer Raccoon People Zarkosings Garsting, Jarst, Zarkos Pastoralist and subsistence farmer goat-herders

True, though it very much depends on the figure - as many tend to have a hoplite panoply and equipment.

Thank you for the information. I'm trying to identify all the hunter-gatherer cultures in Peloria.

Are there still Tunoraling hunter/gatherers in Vanch?

Some material has remained canonical, but on the whole, especially regarding warfare, they are not useful. Bronze Age miniatures (via Fenris Games in the UK), and Foundry have a number (Terror Bird, boar, oxen, rhino, zebra), and a number of other manufacturers have candidate beasts, but I am concentrating on sources that don't require any conversion, beyond the color scheme.

Latest version... Figures for Gloranthan Armies The following terrestrial cultures are suggested as sources for Gloranthan army figures. Note that figures armored in chainmail should be avoided as chainmail is rare. Group Terrestrial Equivalents Black Horse Troop Ridderan No equivalent Grazelanders/Pentans Grazelander /Pentan Scythian, Sarmatian Holy Country Caladraland Mycenaean Esrolians Minoan, Mycenaean Esvularings /God Forgot Sassanian, Byzantine Heortland Mycenaean, Bronze Age North Europeans, Thracian Islanders Minoan, Sea Peoples, Retairius (gladiator) Hsunchen Basmoli Amerindian, Libyan Telmori Amerindian, Libyan Lunar Empire Aggar Thracian, Samnite Carmanian Sassanian, Byzantine, Kushan Char-un Sarmatian Dara Happans Classical Greek, Assyrian Darjiini Assyrian Doblian Thracian Eolian Bronze Age Northern European, Balearic Slingers Holay Gauls, Early Roman Imther Hittite Pelandan Assyrian, Classical Greek Lunar Early Roman, Samnite, Classical Greek, Sassanian Suvarian Thracian, Samnite Tarsh Saxon, Viking, Sassanian Vanch Celtiberians, Samnite Orlanthi Dark Orlanthi Hittite, Thracian Earth Tarsh Bronze Age North European, Hittite Humaki Battalion Early Roman, Gauls, Saxon Light Orlanthi Mycenaean, Hittite, Bronze Age North European, Samnite, Thracian, Saxon, Viking Old Hendriki Sword Orlanthi Uroxi Warband Bronze Age North European, Viking Yelmalion Mycenaean, Hittite, Thracian Praxians Agimori Nubian, Zulu Bison No equivalent Bolo-Lizard No equivalent High Llama No equivalent Impala No equivalent Ostrich No equivalent Pol-Joni Scythian, Sarmatian Rhino No equivalent Sable No equivalent Unicorn Scythian Zebra Scythian, Sarmatian Sun Dome Temples Militia Classical Greek Templar Macedonian

Or the term isn't mentioned - but appears in HeroQuest, Sartar Companion, so is still current. There are, however, no figures I am aware of suitable for demon horses. I've ignored the Hero Wars books, for various reasons, but treat HeroQuest, RuneQuest as reliable.

It's a shame the finished version of this Seshnelan piece didn't get into the Guide:

True - my list covers only the Provincial Army. It does. From Jeff's listing, Imther contributes nothing to the Provincial Army. I've probably made a mistake in just considering formal regiments. My assessment of the Pelorian 'Barbarian Belt': Region Military Tradition Aggar Orlanthi, Templars, Hsunchen Anadiki Orlanthi Balazar Skirmishers Bilini Orlanthi Brolia Orlanthi skirmishers, Hsunchen Charg Orlanthi Holay Orlanthi, Templars, Pelorian Imther Orlanthi, Templars Jarst Skirmishers, Templars Skanthi Orlanthi Talastar Orlanthi – Dara Happan arms & armor Tarsh Orlanthi, Pelorian, Templars Vanch Orlanthi, Skirmishers, Templars Hsunchen: See Hsunchen Warfare. Orlanthi: See Orlanthi Warfare. Pelorian: Regiments of cavalry and infantry. Skirmishers: Light infantry. Templars: Sun Dome Temple soldiers. Bold: denotes Provincial kingdoms of the Lunar Empire.

Vanch provides the Foot Bison and (derived from one of your articles I believe) I've added the unfortunate New Lolon Foot, plus some Templars. The first two are both light infantry; the Foot Bison are equipped with spear, javelin, and broadsword, whilst the New Lolon Foot carry spear, javelin, kopis, and round shield. I was attempting to avoid listing too many as Hittite... but your comment is taken onboard. For Imther, no regiments are listed in the Army List, so I didn't include them, because I know nothing of their armament and armor other than there's a Sun Dome there. (Hmm, need to add that to my Army List...) Jeff's Army List: http://www.glorantha.com/lunar-army-list/ True. I've just uploaded the latest version of the document to dropbox - it includes this list plus many more additions, especially about cataphracti and chariots; the Army List has also been color coded, which makes the cultic associations of many regiments immediately apparent...

The only modern canonical Suvarian regiment is the Graineaters, who carry crescent-shaped wicker shields, wear square bronze pectoral plates and carry six javelins in a quiver and one in-hand. To my mind, this made them similar to Achaemenid infantry. The crescent-shaped shields are an issue, but was used by later Achaemenid takabara peltasts, who probably adopted its use from the Greeks (but seem to have used axes, not javelins)... Unfortunately, peltast was one of those terms the meaning of which drifted over time, so Seleucid peltasts probably wouldn't be suitable. To my mind, Scythians and Sarmatians are a closer fit. The mounts are the issue. Other than the Foot Bison regiment of the Lunar Army, Animal Nomads need their mounts, and I suspect the Foot Bison look more Pelorian than Praxian. My list is only for Central Genertela, as that's the region I write about. Adding the West (or East) would inflate a project that has already grown too large...

Below are my thoughts for war games figures to represent various Central Genertelan cultures. It is far from definitive, and posted here for discussion... Figures for Gloranthan Armies The following terrestrial cultures are suggested as sources for Gloranthan army figures. Note that figures armored in chainmail should be avoided as chainmail is rare. Group Terrestrial Equivalents Black Horse Troop Ridderan No equivalent Grazelanders/Pentans Grazelander /Pentan Scythian, Sarmatian Holy Country Caladraland Mycenaean Esrolians Minoan, Mycenaean Esvularings /God Forgot Sassanian, Byzantine Heortland Mycenaean, Bronze Age North Europeans, Thracian Islanders Minoan Hsunchen Basmoli Amerindian, Libyan Telmori Amerindian, Libyan Lunar Empire Aggar Thracian Carmanian Sassanian, Byzantine, Kushan Char-un Sarmatian Dara Happans Classical Greek, Assyrian Darjiini Assyrian Doblian Thracian Eolian Bronze Age Northern European Holay Gauls, Early Roman Imther Romano-British Pelandan Assyrian, Classical Greek Lunar Early Roman, Classical Greek, Sassanian Suvarian Achaemenid Persian Tarsh Saxon, Viking, Sassanian Vanch Romano-British Orlanthi Dark Orlanthi Hittite, Thracian Earth Tarsh Bronze Age North European, Hittite Humaki Battalion Early Roman, Gauls, Saxon Light Orlanthi Mycenaean, Hittite, Bronze Age North European, Thracian, Saxon, Viking Old Hendriki Sword Orlanthi Uroxi Warband Bronze Age North European, Viking Yelmalion Mycenaean, Hittite, Thracian Praxians Agimori Nubian, Zulu Bison No equivalent Bolo-Lizard No equivalent High Llama No equivalent Impala No equivalent Ostrich No equivalent Pol-Joni Scythian, Sarmatian Rhino No equivalent Sable No equivalent Unicorn Scythian Zebra Scythian, Sarmatian Sun Dome Temples Militia Classical Greek Templar Macedonian

It might be worth considering the use of weapons by different Gloranthan cultures, where some aren't connected with the Runes of the relevant religion... 'Favored Weapon' does not indicate these are the only weapons used by that group, just the most likely. So many groups use spears or swords, even if their religion isn't a Sky or Air cult (though of course there may be a mythological rationale that the god stole it from another). There's some Runic correspondence, but it is far from absolute. Favored Weapons Group Primary Secondary Tertiary Black Horse Troop Ridderan Kontos Sword Dagger Grazelanders Golden Bow Composite Bow Kontos Broadsword Grazelander Kontos Composite Bow Broadsword Hsunchen Basmoli Bow Spear Dagger Telmori Javelin Spear Short Sword Orlanthi Dark Orlanthi Club or Mace Sling Javelin Earth Tarsh Spear Axe Bow Light Orlanthi Bow Sword Spear Old Hendriki Spear Sword Javelin or Sling Sword Orlanthi Spear Sword Javelin Tarshite Spear Short Sword Bow Yelmalion Bow Long Spear Javelin Praxians Bison Lance Sword Javelin Bolo-Lizard Bolas Spear Dagger High Llama Lance Javelin Broadsword Impala Composite bow Darts Short sword Ostrich Boomerang Javelin/ Spear Short sword Pol-Joni Lance Sword Bow Rhino Lance Axe Mace Sable Any Any Any Unicorn Composite bow Sword Lance Zebra Composite bow Lance Sword Sun Dome Temple Militia Spear Bow Short sword Templar Sarissa Bow Short sword

Almost all the maces illustrated are based on real ones, including this one... I admit I looked at it, and thought: hmm, this looks Lodrilli...

Maces are highly effective against a foe lacking a helmet (especially a cavalryman bashing a non-mounted adversary on the head), or a foe wearing heavy armor. Whilst weapons in Glorantha have Elemental associations, I doubt this limits their use (cf Shargashi and maces when Shargash's Runes are Disorder, Sky/Fire, Death and his own Rune). And of course, an individual can have Runes that aren't common in their culture. The reason for the inclusion, out-of-world, is that maces were popular with cataphracti.

It seemed unreasonable to start a new topic for armor, axes and maces.... 8-)

Maces...

The only reason I mention it is that in reviewing volume 1, there were issues with the rune font used in places, meaning that some runes 'shifted'.

Might be worth noting on the errors page.

You don't mention the date in your campaign, and for Heruvernalda, on Kordros Island this could be significant, as it is the major center of the Fazzurites. In 1625 King Pharandros attempted to assassinate all of Fazzur Wideread's supporters, so that when the general returned home, civil war started to simmer in Tarsh. By 1627 Fazzur ruled much of Kordros without regard for decrees coming from Furthest, until he was assassinated in 1628 (though one source says 1629), a casualty of the continuing covert civil war. As the catalyst leading to wider warfare, it was a major miscalculation on the part of the Phargentites. Onjur, Fazzur’s eldest son, led the rebellion against the tyrannical king, who was already hard-pressed by the resurgent Sartarites. When the policies of the Phargentites failed, the people turned to Onjur for leadership. He forged an alliance with King Argrath, and when Sartar attacked Tarsh led the uprising that captured the king. So approaching Heruvernalda fits in with the larger meta-plot, if you want to take it that way, foreshadowing the rapprochement of Tarsh (or at least one side in the looming civil war) and Sartar.

Five smaller cities, including Giant Bones, and Stones over Souls forming a Dragonewt Rune, according to the Argan Argar Atlas, page 29. If there are three more, they are too small to appear on the map.