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Trews are just woollen trousers with tartan on it, right? So you're talking about pants? I think loincloths are probably pretty common in lots of places, regardless of overgarment. Especially for commoners, and in warmer climes, where overgarments might be optional (Esrolian farmers wearing nothing but a loincloth in the fields strike me as pretty plausible.) An additional possibility is a cloth piece, maybe triangular, held in place with string. I think the Egyptians used that? It's also commonly used by different people groups living in tropical environments, like in the Amazon or on Papua New Guinea (though the latter groups might substitute the cloth with a codpiece-gourd) It's effectively sort of a g-string. And yeah, some people probably just go without.

Guys the sun causes cancer and forest fires, the sun is evil, we must cancel the sun. No but on a serious note, can't we cool it a bit, it's getting a bit terse in here.

That's fair, but I also believe they made a worse product as a result of it.

This is an interesting point of disagreement, because Bethesda (the developer of Skyrim and its predecessors, the other Elder Scrolls games, for anyone wondering), actually retconned lore for market purposes. When they were going to develop Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the featured region of Cyrodiil was previously described as a tropical/semitropical jungle or wetland, featuring rice paddies, roman-style legionaries, ancestor worship, and lots of interesting stuff. Much of this was scrapped in favor of a more Western Europe-like style to benefit from the then-current popularity of the Lord of the Rings movies. Just an interesting comparative example.

I'm pretty sure the transformative powers of Hsunchen differs from culture ot culture. I don't think the Pralori or Uncolings are that prone to transform, for example. I could be wrong. EDIT: My personal theory is that Hsunchen who eat their totemic animals tend to not transform as much, while those who hunt along with their totemic animals do it more. This is purely my own conjecture and is probably contradicted several places. It just fits with some of my readings on how animist societies often worry about cannibalism due to imbuing animals and plants with essentially sapient qualities.

We had a discussion of that element in a thread a while ago, and I think an interpretation I quite liked was that "Tar" means "High" or "Elevated". So "Tarumath" could be "High Umath" in an abstract, spiritual sense, and "Tarsh" is perhaps something like "Highland" in a more literal, prosaic sense.

I absolutely get that. Subtle ways to plant ideas in the heads of your readers.

-ling definitely is. -ia I'm on the fence about, but -i seems so ubiquotous* that it would be weird to see it replaced. (*I remember finding it annoying how much it was used back when I got into Glorantha)

I totally get you (in fact, I was about to write "mead-soma"), but those rituals the Vedas talk a lot about, to my knowledge, were cattle sacrifices, which just feels so gosh darn Orlanthi.

I want the Orlanthi to drink soma during their religious rituals.

-i Either denoting a plural demonym, a derivate from a name, an adjective and more ("Orlanthi" being all of these) -ia Also seems to be a toponym. Granted, this exists IRL as well, but I'm going to guess it's an in-universe derivative, and not just RW Greek/Latin.

This is a very Orlanthi-centric account, which is par for the course for Glorantha, but it bears saying. Vithelans will see things differently. Kralorelans will see things differently. Many Pelorians will see things differently.

I curiously couldn't find it by searching, but I'm pretty sure that Jeff or someone else in Chaosium stated that potato does not occur in Genertela, at least. This was either in a response to whether Lunar missionaries use potato cakes instead of maize cakes in Prax(?), or in response to what the different land/grain goddesses were associated with or something like that. Which I have to admit I'm a bit bummed out by. Taters are precious. Tentative headcanon: potatoes and other tubers are the crop of Genert himself. Ressurrecting Genert will spawn many patches of potato all along the Eastern Rockwoods. Alternative: Potatoes are cultivated by the Dwarves of the Pamaltelan mountains, as part of their vegetarian heresy.

I really don't want to get bogged down in tearing apart minutiae, but I think it's contextually likely that the Praxian Bison is referring to the American bison and not the European wisent or Indian gaur (because... well, why would they?). And it's the high *llama*, c'mon. As for cacti, there is only a single frikkin species of cactus outside of the America: R. baccifera. It's pretty clearly an American influence in pop culture: "deserts have cactuses, right? Big, tall, coat-stand-like cacti?". It's like how Glorantha's elk refers to a variant of the wapiti (technically present in East Asia, but probably more familiar to a North American due to it existing in North America), and not A. alces (aka. moose. aka some variation of "elk" in many European languages). Put bluntly, to me, this all pretty clearly compounds to that Greg never really made any absolute differentiation of Eurasian and American flora and fauna when it came to Glorantha, so he kinda just put in whatever he thought was neat. Which is fine. Glorantha isn't Earth.

That would have fit with the general theme of Pamaltela being more "ancient" in terms of lifeforms, but clovers are what are mentioned in the Guide (along with shrubs, etc.). Then again I seem to recall something from the Guide Appendix about the Golden Age that clovers were the original groundcover, but I might be wrong. I like the idea that they're pretty yellow and green usually, but then you get clover flowers during the rainy seasons. That would be a very pretty sight.

Pamaltela, at least south of the mountains if not more, does not have conventional grasses. Instead, its ground cover is said to primarily be made up by varieties of clover. The only one of these I know is a "Sweet Clover" in Jolar, but it is not described, so I don't know if it is similar to the real world Yellow Sweet Clover. Presumably it is only one of a wide array of species. I am used to seeing clover types that are quite water-dependant and prefer more shade (under wooded canopies, etc.), so the thought of Savannah-covering clover is one I'd like to get some help in grokking. Are they as tall as RW savannah grasses, ie. up to over two meters tall? Do they have the characteristic leaves of temperate clovers or am I missing a wide variety of entirely different clovers? Is there a mythical reason why horses can't eat them? (RW explanation would be tse tse flies, not the feed, but the feed is the answer for the lack of horses in Pamaltela, so there we go). Feel free to spin!

I mean, they have tobacco in Safelster, maize and raccoons in Peloria, American elk in Maniria, cacti(?), llama and bison in Prax and probably lots of other Americana I've missed. That being said, turnip is good eating.

W-wings?

That adds a lot of atmosphere. I'm getting Morrowind vibes, somehow. The gamer in me wants to loot all that stuff. XD

This is going to depend entirely on what you find appropriate. For example, I know that some people associate "barbarians" with various kinds of metal, and others wants historically accurate instruments and so on, so I'm just going off my own loose preferences here, usually mood- and roughly thematic rather than anything else. Dragon Pass encapsulates lots of cultural influences that can be variously described as Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Levantine, and some other stuff as well, so that's where my mind went. I also tried to find some stuff that is evocative of tall mountains, windy hills, small steads and farms, rousing adventure, raining downpour, and the mediterranean climes of Kethaela. Prax is a bit of a mystery musically to me. I'm not sure I'd feel entirely comfortable going full on Plains Native American, but that might be me being needlessly squeamish. There are lots of themed mixes on Youtube if you try some different search terms, here's a couple I found, plus some video game soundtracks:, and at the end I just threw in some personal favorites.

There's a well of deep thought to expand upon here. Many blind men describing an elephant by touching different parts. People trying to remember and agree on a dream they all had, but can't quite remember. The left hand not knowing what the right one does. Different wavelengths coexisting, but not easily accessible together to mortals, etc. etc. Or maybe the All is a bit like the Dark Side cave on Dagobah: "What’s In There? Only What You Take With You."

That's my impression as well, though I'm sure opponents of certain Lunar policies will accuse them of the same.

I will be more mindful of my written tone in the future. I apologize for being more bombastic than what was warranted, instead of asking you to expand on your point.

Because if their self has been subsumed into the cosmic self then they are "obviously" acting on behalf of the All, and therefore all *their* motivations are the motivations of the cosmos. Hence my mention of solipsism earlier.

I wasn't aware that the Lunars had much interest in the Praxians beyond simply negating them as a thread. The sojourn into Prax always seemed like a plan-B to get to Kethaela to me. But there are hundreds of pages published on this that I haven't read, so I'm really just wondering out loud.